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Old 07-02-2009, 01:49 PM
 
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Meet the Myth-Makers: Right-Wing Media Groups Provide Ammo for 'Liberal <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Media</b>' Claims


"Meet the Myth-Makers:

Right-Wing Media Groups Provide Ammo for "Liberal Media" Claims


By Peter Hart and Steve Rendall
[Accuracy In Media] | [MediaResearchCenter] | [Center for Media and Public Affairs]
While the main proponents of the liberal media myth are conservative commentators and talkshow hosts (who themselves are the dominant opinion voices in the media), the ammunition for such arguments usually comes from one of three well-funded groups. Two of the groups--Accuracy In Media (AIM) and the MediaResearchCenter (MRC)--are openly conservative, while the Center for Media & Public Affairs (CMPA) presents itself as an objective, nonpartisan research group. AIM does relatively little research, while the plentiful "research" produced by the other two groups is frequently marred by methodological flaws or unsupportable assumptions. Despite the weak foundations of their arguments, these groups have developed impressive media profiles."

How is it in that echo chamber?
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Meet the Myth-Makers: Right-Wing Media Groups Provide Ammo for 'Liberal <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Media</b>' Claims


"Meet the Myth-Makers:

Right-Wing Media Groups Provide Ammo for "Liberal Media" Claims


By Peter Hart and Steve Rendall
[Accuracy In Media] | [MediaResearchCenter] | [Center for Media and Public Affairs]
While the main proponents of the liberal media myth are conservative commentators and talkshow hosts (who themselves are the dominant opinion voices in the media), the ammunition for such arguments usually comes from one of three well-funded groups. Two of the groups--Accuracy In Media (AIM) and the MediaResearchCenter (MRC)--are openly conservative, while the Center for Media & Public Affairs (CMPA) presents itself as an objective, nonpartisan research group. AIM does relatively little research, while the plentiful "research" produced by the other two groups is frequently marred by methodological flaws or unsupportable assumptions. Despite the weak foundations of their arguments, these groups have developed impressive media profiles."

How is it in that echo chamber?
Again my friend you are in an echo chamber and can't recognize it. How sad. And I am sure UCLA is part of this grand caba (Don't worry, I'm sure FAIR has an acrticle you can link to)l.

I am simply shocked shocked I say to read that FAIR doesn't think much of its polar opposite.
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Old 07-02-2009, 02:01 PM
 
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Again my friend you are in an echo chamber and can't recognize it. How sad. And I am sure UCLA is part of this grand cabal.

I am simply shocked shocked I say to read that FAIR doesn't think much of its polar opposite.

Former fellows at conservative think tanks issued flawed UCLA-led study on media's "liberal bias" | Media Matters for America


"None of the outlets that reported on the study mentioned that the authors have previously received funding from the three premier conservative think tanks in the United States: the American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research (AEI), The Heritage Foundation, and the Hoover Institution on War, Revolution and Peace. Groseclose was a Hoover Institution 2000-2001 national fellow; Milyo, according to his CV (pdf), received a $40,500 grant from AEI; and, according to The Philanthropy Roundtable, Groseclose and Milyo were named by Heritage as Salvatori fellows in 1997. In 1996, Groseclose and Milyo co-authored a piece for the right-wing magazine The American Spectator, titled "Lost Shepherd," criticizing the then-recently defeated member of Congress Karen Shepherd (D-UT) and defending her successor, Enid Greene (R-UT); when the piece was published, Greene was in the midst of a campaign contribution scandal and later agreed to pay a civil penalty after the Federal Election Commission found (pdf) that she violated campaign finance laws."

Facts are facts.
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Old 07-02-2009, 02:01 PM
 
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NO, I think some are starting to get a rude awakening...
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Old 07-02-2009, 02:07 PM
 
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Former fellows at conservative think tanks issued flawed UCLA-led study on media's "liberal bias" | Media Matters for America


"None of the outlets that reported on the study mentioned that the authors have previously received funding from the three premier conservative think tanks in the United States: the American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research (AEI), The Heritage Foundation, and the Hoover Institution on War, Revolution and Peace. Groseclose was a Hoover Institution 2000-2001 national fellow; Milyo, according to his CV (pdf), received a $40,500 grant from AEI; and, according to The Philanthropy Roundtable, Groseclose and Milyo were named by Heritage as Salvatori fellows in 1997. In 1996, Groseclose and Milyo co-authored a piece for the right-wing magazine The American Spectator, titled "Lost Shepherd," criticizing the then-recently defeated member of Congress Karen Shepherd (D-UT) and defending her successor, Enid Greene (R-UT); when the piece was published, Greene was in the midst of a campaign contribution scandal and later agreed to pay a civil penalty after the Federal Election Commission found (pdf) that she violated campaign finance laws."

Facts are facts.
And Media Matters is funded by many Liberal groups. One of which is moveon.org.

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Old 07-02-2009, 02:10 PM
 
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And Media Matters is funded by many Liberal groups. One of which is moveon.org.

A cartoon probably is the best one can do in leu of the facts being so arrayed against what the right is trying to say.


Media Matters for America - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Criticism
On August 19, 2005, Media Matters posted an item regarding a letter that Cliff Kincaid, editor from the conservative, media watchdog organization Accuracy in Media, said he had received from an Afghan ambassador. Media Matters wrote that the letter was not a scanned document and that it "bears all the hallmarks of a do-it-yourself, cut-and-paste job."[23] Within hours of the post, Kincaid posted scanned images of the letter and envelope he said he had received, and wrote that Media Matters had accused him of "having fabricated or forged a letter from the Ambassador of Afghanistan." He characterized the piece as "defamatory" and criticized Media Matters for not obtaining his side of the story prior to publishing their item.[24] Media Matters then issued a subsequent post stating that Kincaid "misrepresented the original Media Matters item" and "failed to point out a single falsehood" in the item, which "simply pointed out that the letter as posted on the America's Survival website consisted of separate elements cobbled together from various sources."[25]
Bill O'Reilly, the subject of many Media Matters items and a frequent critic of Media Matters, has called them a "vile propaganda outfit … which specializes in distorting comments made by politicians, pundits, and media people."[26] O'Reilly said that he believes Media Matters took comments he made on his radio program to Juan Williams regarding a dinner with Al Sharpton in Harlem out of context.[27][28] O'Reilly said that the Media Matters piece put together two out of context comments that were initially spoken five minutes apart and presented them as one comment in an effort to mislead readers.[29] In an appearance on NBC's Today with Matt Lauer, Media Matters senior fellow Paul Waldman responded that they had included "the full audio, the full transcript, [and] nothing was taken out of context."[30] In response to the controversy, Williams wrote an editorial for Time noting that in his opinion "the attacks on O'Reilly amounted to an effort to take what he said totally out of context in an attempt to brand him a racist by a liberal group that disagrees with much of his politics."[31]"


And if that is the worsdt that can be said of them, they're doing good, fact-wise.

Note, the only ones with criticism are the conservative sites, themselves known liars- as Media Matters- and MANY others- routinely reveal.

Oh yeah, there is Juan Williams. Remember him?

Forced to ditch his Washington Post job for "indiscretions".

Here's a tip:

Watch ALL news sources in the US, the right, left, and corporate middle. You'll spend lots of time on the internet, I assure you, because that's the only place the left is allowed.

Then compare the way things work-out over time to the various lines of "facts" being presented.

You'll find the "Left" facts are the ones which jive closest with reality.

Case in point:

The Iraq War.

Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 was widely panned when it first aired.
Now it's the standard for understanding the prelude to war, and the war itself.

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Old 07-02-2009, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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A cartoon probably is the best one can do in leu of the facts being so arrayed against what the right is trying to say.

You make me laugh. For every partisan post you produce I can produce one. Only one who is well limited believes any of these partisan links are produced other than persuade. Yet you claim to have done "research" and proclaimed partisans (FAIR and Media Matters) the truth. Well then from here forward I hae done my research and have found AIM holds the truth, no reason for further discussion. Move along.
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Old 07-02-2009, 02:24 PM
 
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Former fellows at conservative think tanks issued flawed UCLA-led study on media's "liberal bias" | Media Matters for America


"None of the outlets that reported on the study mentioned that the authors have previously received funding from the three premier conservative think tanks in the United States: the American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research (AEI), The Heritage Foundation, and the Hoover Institution on War, Revolution and Peace. Groseclose was a Hoover Institution 2000-2001 national fellow; Milyo, according to his CV (pdf), received a $40,500 grant from AEI; and, according to The Philanthropy Roundtable, Groseclose and Milyo were named by Heritage as Salvatori fellows in 1997. In 1996, Groseclose and Milyo co-authored a piece for the right-wing magazine The American Spectator, titled "Lost Shepherd," criticizing the then-recently defeated member of Congress Karen Shepherd (D-UT) and defending her successor, Enid Greene (R-UT); when the piece was published, Greene was in the midst of a campaign contribution scandal and later agreed to pay a civil penalty after the Federal Election Commission found (pdf) that she violated campaign finance laws."

Facts are facts.
There is no possible way to read or watch any of the major news media outlets and not see an obvious liberal bias. At least have the decency to be honest with yourself.
Anything left or right of center is is biased. Something being closer to the center than you are does not mean that its biased in the other direction.
That's like thinking that because you lie less than the next person your somehow honest. Your still a liar. Just not as big of one.
The New York Post has more of a liberal bias than the New York Times but that doesn't make the Times conservative.

Quoting liberal propaganda to support liberal propaganda is just more liberal propaganda.
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Old 07-02-2009, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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There is no possible way to read or watch any of the major news media outlets and not see an obvious liberal bias. At least have the decency to be honest with yourself.
Anything left or right of center is is biased. Something being closer to the center than you are does not mean that its biased in the other direction.
That's like thinking that because you lie less than the next person your somehow honest. Your still a liar. Just not as big of one.
The New York Post has more of a liberal bias than the New York Times but that doesn't make the Times conservative.

Quoting liberal propaganda to support liberal propaganda is just more liberal propaganda.
Simply can't be true FAIR and Media Matters says it aint so.
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Old 07-02-2009, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Honestly, turn off those big screen TV's, get away from the extreme partisan sites and you just may find some unbiased or slightly biased news. Read both sides of a story and make up your own mind.

Don't let the media get your emotions up. Think with your brain.
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