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Old 07-13-2009, 07:23 PM
 
Location: NC
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yeah, those northern whites certainly hooked us up with bev purdue didn't they. that's called the side effect of the straight ticket.
I do not think so. You see on the state level North Carolina has been run exclusively by a uniquely NC type of Democrat since the 1990s and those dems have been running the state for the better part of the state's post reconstruction history. In fact, if you look at where Bev Purdue won, a lot of the places you will find, are in Eastern Carolina and wouldn't vote for a national democrat in a million years, but elect Dems to the legislature and Governorship consistantly. In fact Bev Purdue barely broke even Charlotte one of the centers of the NC northern population.

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Old 07-13-2009, 07:24 PM
 
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are you saying the minorities in the south are uneducated? that borders on racism. new hampshire is quite educated, and they voted for bush in 00.
no, i'm saying in general that blue states better educated and they have higher incomes.
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Midwestern Dystopia
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Red=less government
Blue= More government

this is just not true... it's like saying repubs are for less spending when georgie and ray-gun were racking up the national dept....

george did more to expand the fed. gov't in the last 8 years than any pres. in recent memory...

do you want gov't out of the abortion issue? of course not...
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Charleston Sc and Western NC
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no, i'm saying in general that blue states better educated and they have higher incomes.

um, hello. Texas? Thank you.
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:26 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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and very much a part of the caucasian nation... are you racist????

man, the fake outrage is a a rediculously high level in this country...

this will go down in history as one of the most absurd posts in C-D history.
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:27 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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Good question finalsay Here's my breakdown:

Red States: I think the South is red because they've historically been more opposed to a centralized federal government, And right now the GOP represents the smaller govt party (well, smaller than the dems anyway). Add Christianity to that and the south is red as a beet with a sunburn in July. (Did that sound "southern" enough?)

The same goes for the mountain west, which has a more libertarian streak, though that's changing with immigrants from Colorado and Mexico who tend to vote Democratic.

Blue States
The Upper Midwest I chalk up to industry and a history of progressive populism--especially in Wisconsin, Minnesota and Iowa. Here in Michigan it's due more to industry, but we're much mor capable of electing Republicans than the other three states. West Michigan, where I live, is solidly Republican and we seesaw back and forth.

The Northeast has always supported a more active government (Remember the Federalists were strongest in New England)

And the coasts are just more progressive--not like they are in the Midwest. It's a different kind of progressive that's hard to describe.

It's really interesting because it shows the two parties as coalitions not as solid blocks. On the right you have libertarians and christian conservatives, while on the left you have the far left progressives, and the more down to earth midwestern types. They're not monoliths by any means. That's the best analysis I can give. Hope it helps
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Midwestern Dystopia
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um, hello. Texas? Thank you.
Houston we have a problem...
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Charleston Sc and Western NC
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this is just not true... it's like saying repubs are for less spending when georgie and ray-gun were racking up the national dept....

george did more to expand the fed. gov't in the last 8 years than any pres. in recent memory...

do you want gov't out of the abortion issue? of course not...

Have YOU looked at Obama's flow chart lately? Over a <cough> TRILLION
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Texas
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um, hello. Texas? Thank you.


I live in the largest red county in the country - in Texas. Above average income, above average education level, relatively diverse, etc. - nearly 2 million people and red.
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:27 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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I do not think so. You see on the state level North Carolina has been run exclusively by a uniquely NC type of Democrat since the 1990s and those dems have been running the state for the better part of the state's post reconstruction history. In fact, if you look at where Bev Purdue won, a lot of the places you will find, are in Eastern Carolina and wouldn't vote for a national democrat in a million years, but elect Dems to the legislature and Governorship consistantly. In fact Bev Purdue barely broke even Charlotte one of the centers of the NC northern population.

Local and National Election Results - Election Center 2008 - Elections & Politics from CNN.com

I refuse to hijack my own thread, but bev purdue is embarrassing. she got destroyed by mike munger in the debates.
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