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I don't know which is worse, people getting all their information from forwarded emails or from bloggers.
The White House simple asked people to forward to them those forwarded emails or urls of sites that contain misinformation about the health care legislation. That's it.
Considering how much the loony right loves forwarding emails and siting crazy bloggers, this shouldn't be a problem.
The title of this thread "Obama wants to monitor your emails" is so misleading I have to question if you know what the word "monitor" means.
and all Woodrow Wilson asked was for the postman general and other citizens to let the white house know of people who were in opposition to WWI and other government programs.... we all know how that ended.
You know damn well Bush did not want to monitor anything you did unless you were a suspicious character.
Stop lying to yourself, Obama wants to know everything you are doing and you know it.
Did Bush have people reporting back to him your every move like Obama wants? NO he did not.
who is to say that someone opposed to Obama's plans is not a "suspicious character"? after all his administration labeled anyone in opposition to his plans as radicals, and extremists.
Why would Bush need people to tell him anything when he's tapping everybody's phone lines?
No, Obama doesn't want to know everything I am doing.
Obama has asked for VOLUNTARY help from CONSTITUENTS in letting him know what kind of misinformation is circulating about the health care plan. Industry-backed Republican media fear this--and are twisting it into some kind of nefarious plot to "monitor" Americans' emails--because they don't want to be exposed for the liars that they are.
You seriously need to come out of the conspiracy theory dungeon in which you are currently residing.
and Woodrow Wilson asked his constituents in letting him know who was critical of the government. (hint, it ended with political prisoners.)
You'd prefer the continuation of misinformation?
Silly question, of course you would.
They're not asking for names, they're interested in disinformation so that the issues can be addressed.
Did you even read past the first paragraph?
Silly me to think that you would.
You know, disinformation, like the kind of bunk that we shoot down every day on CD.
It's that simple.
Anything else after that is just being willfully stupid.
I will ask you one more time to read the sedition act, it is clear as day. I will no longer respond to you until you have done so, I am tired of playing your little games.
It's no game. It would be common courtesy on your part to support your argument with an analysis of what you claim are the "identical[ness]" between and intent behind the two texts. You don't want to, that's fine. But your unsubstantiated claim is nothing more than than that.
It's no game. It would be common courtesy on your part to support your argument with an analysis of what you claim are the "identical[ness]" between and intent behind the two texts. You don't want to, that's fine. But your unsubstantiated claim is nothing more than than that.
There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.
Section 3 of the Sedition Act of 1918
"Whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully make or convey false reports or false statements with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the military or naval forces of the United States, or to promote the success of its enemies, or shall willfully make or convey false reports or false statements, or say or do anything except by way of bona fide and not disloyal advice to an investor or investors, with intent to obstruct the sale by the United States of bonds or other securities of the United States or the making of loans by or to the United States, and whoever when the United States is at war, shall willfully cause or attempt to cause, or incite or attempt to incite, insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty, in the military or naval forces of the United States, or shall willfully obstruct or attempt to obstruct the recruiting or enlistment services of the United States, and whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully utter, print, write or publish any disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language about the form of government of the United States or the Constitution of the United States, or the military or naval forces of the United States, or the flag of the United States, or the uniform of the Army or Navy of the United States into contempt, scorn, contumely, or disrepute, or shall willfully utter, print, write, or publish any language intended to incite, provoke, or encourage resistance to the United States, or to promote the cause of its enemies, or shall willfully display the flag of any foreign enemy, or shall willfully by utterance, writing, printing, publication, or language spoken, urge, incite, or advocate any curtailment of production in this country of any thing or things, product or products, necessary or essential to the prosecution of the war in which the United States may be engaged, with intent by such curtailment to cripple or hinder the United States in the prosecution of war, and whoever shall willfully advocate, teach, defend, or suggest the doing of any of the acts or things in this section enumerated, and whoever shall by word or act support or favor the cause of any country with which the United States is at war or by word or act oppose the cause of the United States therein, shall be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000 or the imprisonment for not more than twenty years, or both: Provided, That any employee or official of the United States Government who commits any disloyal act or utters any unpatriotic or disloyal language, or who, in an abusive and violent manner criticizes the Army or Navy or the flag of the United States shall be at once dismissed from the service.."
Section 4 of the Sedition Act of 1918
When the United States is at war, the Postmaster General may, upon evidence satisfactory to him that any person or concern is using the mails in violation of any of the provisions of this Act, instruct the postmaster at any post office at which mail is received addressed to such person or concern to return to the postmaster at the office at which they were originally mailed all letters or other matter so addressed, with the words "Mail to this address undeliverable under Espionage Act" plainly written or stamped upon the outside thereof, and all such letters or other matter so returned to such postmasters shall be by them returned to the senders thereof under such regulations as the Postmaster General may prescribe.
on and on and on.
Essentially "let us know of any wording that is 'fishy' and we will deal with it"
The sedition act ended with over 2000 people imprisoned for voicing their opinions, opposition to many different things.
There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.
Section 3 of the Sedition Act of 1918
"Whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully make or convey false reports or false statements with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the military or naval forces of the United States, or to promote the success of its enemies, or shall willfully make or convey false reports or false statements, or say or do anything except by way of bona fide and not disloyal advice to an investor or investors, with intent to obstruct the sale by the United States of bonds or other securities of the United States or the making of loans by or to the United States, and whoever when the United States is at war, shall willfully cause or attempt to cause, or incite or attempt to incite, insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty, in the military or naval forces of the United States, or shall willfully obstruct or attempt to obstruct the recruiting or enlistment services of the United States, and whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully utter, print, write or publish any disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language about the form of government of the United States or the Constitution of the United States, or the military or naval forces of the United States, or the flag of the United States, or the uniform of the Army or Navy of the United States into contempt, scorn, contumely, or disrepute, or shall willfully utter, print, write, or publish any language intended to incite, provoke, or encourage resistance to the United States, or to promote the cause of its enemies, or shall willfully display the flag of any foreign enemy, or shall willfully by utterance, writing, printing, publication, or language spoken, urge, incite, or advocate any curtailment of production in this country of any thing or things, product or products, necessary or essential to the prosecution of the war in which the United States may be engaged, with intent by such curtailment to cripple or hinder the United States in the prosecution of war, and whoever shall willfully advocate, teach, defend, or suggest the doing of any of the acts or things in this section enumerated, and whoever shall by word or act support or favor the cause of any country with which the United States is at war or by word or act oppose the cause of the United States therein, shall be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000 or the imprisonment for not more than twenty years, or both: Provided, That any employee or official of the United States Government who commits any disloyal act or utters any unpatriotic or disloyal language, or who, in an abusive and violent manner criticizes the Army or Navy or the flag of the United States shall be at once dismissed from the service.."
Section 4 of the Sedition Act of 1918
When the United States is at war, the Postmaster General may, upon evidence satisfactory to him that any person or concern is using the mails in violation of any of the provisions of this Act, instruct the postmaster at any post office at which mail is received addressed to such person or concern to return to the postmaster at the office at which they were originally mailed all letters or other matter so addressed, with the words "Mail to this address undeliverable under Espionage Act" plainly written or stamped upon the outside thereof, and all such letters or other matter so returned to such postmasters shall be by them returned to the senders thereof under such regulations as the Postmaster General may prescribe.
on and on and on.
Essentially "let us know of any wording that is 'fishy' and we will deal with it"
The sedition act ended with over 2000 people imprisoned for voicing their opinions, opposition to many different things.
Interesting reading. Thank you! I admit if Bush were doing this, I'd be having a fit, so I guess what is good for the goose...Quite frankly, it seems amateurish of the White House to be doing this, when a special interest group could have done it and thereby avoided such comparisons.
But you honestly believe that this will eventually lead to the imprisonment of people in this country?
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