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Old 08-11-2009, 10:48 AM
 
Location: North Central Florida
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These have begun popping up around my county.


Now the "gun" part of it isnt so much the issue with me, so no need to turn this into another thread on 2nd amendment rights.

The "gun" issue as stated here could be replaced with anything really...even something like, "know someone that isnt down with UHC? We'll pay for that information"

Basically, this is conditioning, and recruiting for informants, as a way to make an income, isnt it? Is this the "stimulus" at work?
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Old 08-11-2009, 10:52 AM
 
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Crime Stoppers is private organization?

As distasteful as it is I don't see the problem.
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Old 08-11-2009, 11:01 AM
 
Location: North Central Florida
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A "private" organization..."administered" by a sherriff's deputy
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Old 08-11-2009, 11:42 AM
 
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These have begun popping up around my county.


Now the "gun" part of it isnt so much the issue with me, so no need to turn this into another thread on 2nd amendment rights.

The "gun" issue as stated here could be replaced with anything really...even something like, "know someone that isnt down with UHC? We'll pay for that information"

Basically, this is conditioning, and recruiting for informants, as a way to make an income, isnt it? Is this the "stimulus" at work?

Owning an illegal gun is ILLEGAL.
Spreading misinformation is not illegal.

Would you be against an organization offering a reward for clues to a murder investigation?
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Old 08-11-2009, 11:45 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Owning an illegal gun is ILLEGAL.
Spreading misinformation is not illegal.

Would you be against an organization offering a reward for clues to a murder investigation?
Would you also support reporting illegal immigrants in this manner?
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Old 08-11-2009, 11:46 AM
 
Location: California
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Doesn't the IRS have a hotline for informing on people too?
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Old 08-11-2009, 12:15 PM
 
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Would you also support reporting illegal immigrants in this manner?
Your example regarding human beings requires a bit more empathy than a gun. I would report illegal immigrants in this manner if they were having a specific negative impact on my life, or if their presence was maladaptive to my community (e.g. violence, gangs, crimes). However, if they do not have a negative influence on my community, I do not personally have a problem with it.

I answer this way because there is a profound 'human' element to illegal immigration. Whereas in the gun example, I could care less about the guns. I would report somebody with illegal guns as soon as I could, ESPECIALLY if I would receive a reward for it. This stems from my personal view of gun control.

It appears at the core of this issue is whether it is "right" or not to ask people to report illegal activities. I do not have any issue with this. What is the point of law if people are just going to criticize it when others report violations? If there is such an issue with the said law, then let's work on improving the law.

So, to answer your question, I do not have a problem with an organization asking for people to report illegal immigrants (or any other illegal activity). However, I might not be the person that would be doing the reporting. Again, let's work on exacting our law if we are going to be so outraged when it is enforced.


Now, I answered your question. Answer my question: Would you be against an organization offering a reward for clues to a murder investigation?

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Old 08-11-2009, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Rural Northern California
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Would you also support reporting illegal immigrants in this manner?
Or, for that matter, somebody who grows cannabis (for themselves only)? Someone who makes moonshine?

Encouraging people to turn in their neighbors for crimes that haven't been committed is bad policy. It's sheer lunacy that we outlaw the ownership of certain types of firearms when the true aim is to stop them from being used in a crime. Whether or not a gun is going to be used in a crime has nothing to do with what kind of gun it is, and everything to do with who owns it. But hell, governments have been encouraging people to turn in their neighbors and/or family members for a long, long time, so it's about time the U.S. got on board. A little fascism never hurt anybody, right?
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Old 08-11-2009, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Cable (theft) and insurance companies (fraud) do the same thing. I don't think it is that big of a deal .
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Old 08-11-2009, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I'd rather see this than "Where's the Birth Certificate?" lol
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