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Old 08-13-2009, 11:17 AM
 
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That's true. 85 pages of sources, but the real question is, how much of that is objective, and how much listed in support of what was almost certainly a biased perspective from the start?
I wouldn't be surprised if it's biased. She's conservative and Obama is not. She provided 85 pages of sources that the OP has checked out and found to have some credibility. I haven't checked them out so I don't have a very strong opinion on it. However, jumping on her without having having any idea what the book says seems a little silly - or as Repubocrat says, "weak minded."
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Old 08-13-2009, 11:17 AM
 
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That's true. 85 pages of sources, but the real question is, how much of that is objective, and how much listed in support of what was almost certainly a biased perspective from the start?
Exactly! What person would write a book and then provide sources that negate or contradict the book? How stupid are some people????
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Old 08-13-2009, 11:18 AM
 
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If she's wrong, then let's wait and see the lawsuits start flying. I want to know if she's incorrect. Not because you might hate her, but because she is making it up .There's a big difference. If she's a lying #$@#, then we'll find out. If she's not, I stand here ashamed of myself for being snookered. And I'll admit it.
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Old 08-13-2009, 11:19 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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I wouldn't be surprised if it's biased. She's conservative and Obama is not. She provided 85 pages of sources that the OP has checked out and found to have some credibility. I haven't checked them out so I don't have a very strong opinion on it. However, jumping on her without having having any idea what the book says seems a little silly - or as Repubocrat says, "weak minded."

Malkin has a long and very public track record. Her bias is no secret to anyone. Pretending that this book is anything other than another extended hyperpartisan screed is disingenuous.
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Old 08-13-2009, 11:20 AM
 
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You must be a very weak minded person to be influenced by such stupid person like Maulkin. Another FOX News fraud, a neocon Asian right winger LOL, GOP cartoon character #24
Not an Asian right winger..... Asians have to be one of us open-minded types....
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Old 08-13-2009, 11:20 AM
 
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That's true. 85 pages of sources, but the real question is, how much of that is objective, and how much listed in support of what was almost certainly a biased perspective from the start?
I know I'm being picky here but there is no such thing as an unbiased writer.
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Old 08-13-2009, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Fly-over country.
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MM is a reasonable conservative who is not off the reservation like Beck. She at least calls out conservatives who mess up, pork up, etc. Sure she's not neutral, and her view of facts in her book is slanted in favor of the political right.

And what's wrong with defending internment? WW2 was the last, clear-cut, nation-state(s) vs. nation-state(s) war. That's how wars were faught. If you were from there, you could not be trusted unless proved otherwise. We're beyond that now since countries don't dare fight the US toe to toe. Sometimes the correct choice at the time (internment, etc) needs to be defended lest we make moral equivalency arguements all day long and second guess our own history.

Don't like her book? Don't buy it. Better yet, write a better one. No one's holding any of us back.
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Old 08-13-2009, 11:21 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The sources from the book have a lot of Obama's own transcripts, book excerpts, and it seems to be using the democrats own words against them. Fascinating stuff.
It has all been in plain sight all along, but too few people bother to actually learn about who they're voting for.

Some of us have known the facts in the book since Day 1 of Obama's presidential campaign - a few, like some of us Chicago locals, knew Obama was enveloped in and participating in a culture of corruption since back when he was just a fledgling IL state senator. It's ILLINOIS POLITICS, for pete's sake!
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Old 08-13-2009, 11:22 AM
 
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The first thing I did was go to the back to see the notes and index. From page 291 to 376 are acknowledgments, notes, and index. If this book is true, and I highly suspect that it is, the title is correct. Let's just see if any lawsuits come out of it right away. As a person who voted for Obama and change, it did turn my stomach. I won't say anything more, find out for yourself. I read these blogs and websites, trying to find a way to exonerate myself for what I did when I voted. As an independent, I can't stand either of the two major parties. But I won't lie and say what isn't true about what is going on. This is a dangerous and crooked game the white house is playing on all of us. It's sad, so sad. I want to be wrong, so bad do I want to be wrong. But watching the older people on t.v. who can barely contain themselves because of their anger, now that's reality. That's not hope and change. I feel bad and I'm sorry, and I feel stupid. I won't debate the healthcare crisis here, my union does that for me, I just want to say, more than half the country hates what's going on, and I stand with that half.
Your post sounds like propaganda to me. Also sounds like somebody is trying to help Malkin sell more books as well as to give validity to the horribly confused and easily-led protestors at the TH meetings!

I'm not buying.
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Old 08-13-2009, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Iowa, Heartland of Murica
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If she's wrong, then let's wait and see the lawsuits start flying. I want to know if she's incorrect. Not because you might hate her, but because she is making it up .There's a big difference. If she's a lying #$@#, then we'll find out. If she's not, I stand here ashamed of myself for being snookered. And I'll admit it.
Do you expect credibility from some Asian-American woman who wrote a book defending Japanese American internment? This woman is full of self-loathing, she probably sees herself as a White person and hates her race and ethnicity. Her real last name is Maglalang. She is definitely a yellow Uncle Tom.
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