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Wait till the tipping point and its too late.
Y'know, point of no return?
I prefer we come in ahead of schedule.
So if we don't know, than how can it be labeled a crisis? What if what we are seeing is simply a statistical blip within the billion year jistory of the Earth? What if man is not an alien creature but part of nature, and nature is very capable of taking care of itself through natural systems? What if man trying to fiddle with nature only screws things up worse?
4 months, we only have 4 months. I read that report from the UN. A last-ditched effort by The Goreacle minions to try and scare the pants off the population - it just doesn't work anymore.
I'd like a link to that.
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I'm just curious; Considering ALL the predictions from the GW-alarmists in the past that have not come true, why do you continue to be so gullible?
I've posted links - but you are attacking me for some reason?
I can't help it if you are wrong all the time and unwilling to read links that I provide to try and help you out.
So if we don't know, than how can it be labeled a crisis? What if what we are seeing is simply a statistical blip within the billion year jistory of the Earth? What if man is not an alien creature but part of nature, and nature is very capable of taking care of itself through natural systems? What if man trying to fiddle with nature only screws things up worse?
Sheer insanity disguised as science.
If you ever want to have a reasonable discussion, you'll have to get my attention, and kiss ass some too before we talk again.
So if we don't know, than how can it be labeled a crisis? What if what we are seeing is simply a statistical blip within the billion year jistory of the Earth? What if man is not an alien creature but part of nature, and nature is very capable of taking care of itself through natural systems? What if man trying to fiddle with nature only screws things up worse?
Sheer insanity disguised as science.
Well, the way nature corrects itself is to purge itself of destructive forces.
One need only look at the collapse of the Roman Empire - due in large part to their stripping all the forests and polluting waterways and such - to see that whether or not nature survives (it will) is irrelevant to whether or not we can sustain our civilization by not being a destructive force anymore.
And do you accuse a large body of credible scientific work sheer insanity because you do not personally wish to accept it based on your belief, or have you studied the science to determine it was done in a manner lacking sanity.
If you have evidence for your accusation of 'sheer insanity' for each study pointing to climate change by academic and research institutions, please post. It would be interested to read it.
We have just four months. Four months to secure the future of our planet.
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And do you accuse a large body of credible scientific work sheer insanity because you do not personally wish to accept it based on your belief, or have you studied the science to determine it was done in a manner lacking sanity.
ALL based on faulty models, cooked up by the alarmists.
The study found that climate models explain only about half of the heating that occurred during a well-documented period of rapid global warming in Earth’s ancient past.
It contains an analysis of published records from a period of rapid climatic warming about 55 million years ago known as the Palaeocene-Eocene thermal maximum, or PETM.”In a nutshell, theoretical models cannot explain what we observe in the geological record,” said oceanographer Gerald Dickens, a co-author of the study and professor of Earth science at Rice University.
Let's just assume for a moment that all the scientists are wrong and that the temperature has naturally increased 7 degrees millions of years ago.
So what? We can't survive that increase. Even one degree has the potential to sink our coastal cities.
Whatever you want to believe about science, we need to take action. And, in the end, we need to stop polluting, period.
So, it shouldn't matter. Let's use these free markets to stop polluting, then you don't have to worry about it.
Right now, the people who control the money are fighting to hold onto the status quo.
Fight the power, Sanrene! Stand up against the status quo and force businesses to solve this pollution problem rather than constantly just fighting liberals!
Let's just assume for a moment that all the scientists are wrong and that the temperature has naturally increased 7 degrees millions of years ago.
So what? We can't survive that increase. Even one degree has the potential to sink our coastal cities.
Whatever you want to believe about science, we need to take action. And, in the end, we need to stop polluting, period.
So, it shouldn't matter. Let's use these free markets to stop polluting, then you don't have to worry about it.
Right now, the people who control the money are fighting to hold onto the status quo.
Fight the power, Sanrene! Stand up against the status quo and force businesses to solve this pollution problem rather than constantly just fighting liberals!
Bluefly, ar you even listening to yourself? The whole argument is not simply whether "it" (Global Warming ®) is happening, but when to do something about "it" and what that "something" might look like.
Most of us are against pollution. But there is a very big difference between the quality of life issue of pollution and the snake oil known as Global Warming ® that not only do not all reputable scientists agree on, but the ones who do think it is happening cannot prove it, nor can they tell us how long it has been happening or will be happening. Indeed, as an earlier poster wrote, nobody knows when the "tipping point" might be.
So the idea that somehow we need to take revolutionary action "right now" just in case something might happen to the planet in the next 30 days or the next 30 million years is absurd. Dare I say it is insanity.
And your point about the people who hold the money fighting to preserve the status quo, well, the last I checked we had a Democrat President, a Democrat majority in the House and a filibuster proof Democratic majority in the Senate.
Railing against Bush and business just isn't gonna cut it anymore.
Let's just assume for a moment that all the scientists are wrong and that the temperature has naturally increased 7 degrees millions of years ago.
So what? We can't survive that increase. Even one degree has the potential to sink our coastal cities.
Whatever you want to believe about science, we need to take action. And, in the end, we need to stop polluting, period.
So, it shouldn't matter. Let's use these free markets to stop polluting, then you don't have to worry about it.
Right now, the people who control the money are fighting to hold onto the status quo.
Fight the power, Sanrene! Stand up against the status quo and force businesses to solve this pollution problem rather than constantly just fighting liberals!
Dear GW crowd:
We know the earth's temperature has risen since the last ice age. We know humans have historically built as close to the water as practical. According to the same scientists in charge of the GW data, the earth's temp has increased by 1 degree Celsius in the last 2000 years. How many of the cities inhabited 2000 years ago are underwater today?
The debate about whether or not the climate is changing has been over for years, there is undeniable proof the earths avg. temperature is rising.
Yes it has been over for years. In 1990 the UN appointed head of the IPCC shrieked that if we did not act immediately to cut greenhouse gases, we would pass the famous "point of no return" and that in 10 years we would begin to see entire nations destroyed by catastrophic sea level changes.
Well, 10 years after he shrieked about it was 2000. It is now 2009. Still waiting....
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