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Don't forget taxes too. Swedes enjoy a higher tax rate than us.
But their government has admitted it isn't prepared to own a car company.
and much better looking ladies. Swedes have chosen to have the best social benefits in the world. Swedes focus on people....their neighbors. They are very content knowing they will be taken care of until death.
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Interesting that you bring up the lack of discipline in schools in an argument about why a liberal perspective would provide better services. Who do you think pushes for the lack of discipline? Schools can't provide discipline anymore or tell a kid that they didn't do well enough on an exam because it might hurt their feelings. Where does that come from?
Some of it came from the liberals. I won't deny that. But as a LIBERAL that does not mean I agree with the liberals on every issue all the time. The liberals opposed the No Child Left Behind law. I support it. I am FOR unions but I think the power of the teacher and public servant unions needs to be cut down so that BAD teachers and 911 Dispatchers that sleep on the job can be removed. Liberals and me are on the opposing sides of several issues including gun bans.
Schools should be clean, orderly and DEMANDING of students.
Some of it came from the liberals. I won't deny that. But as a LIBERAL that does not mean I agree with the liberals on every issue all the time. The liberals opposed the No Child Left Behind law. I support it. I am FOR unions but I think the power of the teacher and public servant unions needs to be cut down so that BAD teachers and 911 Dispatchers that sleep on the job can be removed. Liberals and me are on the opposing sides of several issues including gun bans.
Schools should be clean, orderly and DEMANDING of students.
Another thing to take into consideration is that Switzerland is the size of one of our states. Whenever people talk about a European country and compare it to ours, they fail to make the connection that we are actually 50 countries, not 1 the size of a state.
And you seem to fail to make the connection that Europe as European Union is ONE nation (under member states) which comprise of 500 million people today and a combination of 27 countries. And ALL of these nations, even the poorest ones who are newly joined members - which is a burden - have been given complete UHC to cover each and all, every single one of them. Not only healthcare, but the entire list of social services and rights so common under their system: sick leave, maternity leave, unemployment benefits, welfare, 5 wk paid vacation a year, 40 hr work weeks, pensions on retirement (generally at 65) and so on and on. And the rich "member states" (countries) chip in to lift up the poor ones so they will develop and become financially independent and then be able to contribute their own resources to the EU economy. The EU economy in total is the strongest and richest in the world.
If considered as a single economy, just like all 50 US states join as the USA, the EU amount to over 22% of the world's total economic output in terms of purchasing power parity, which makes it the largest economy in the world by nominal GDP and the second largest trade bloc economy in the world by PPP valuation of GDP. It is also the largest exporter, and largest importer of goods and services.
So, 500 million people in Europe are provided UHC. But 307 million americans are not and for some reason are being made excuses to get what they should have received ages ago.
And you seem to fail to make the connection that Europe as European Union is ONE nation (under member states) which comprise of 500 million people today and a combination of 27 countries. And ALL of these nations, even the poorest ones who are newly joined members - which is a burden - have been given complete UHC to cover each and all, every single one of them. Not only healthcare, but the entire list of social services and rights so common under their system: sick leave, maternity leave, unemployment benefits, welfare, 5 wk paid vacation a year, 40 hr work weeks, pensions on retirement (generally at 65) and so on and on. And the rich "member states" (countries) chip in to lift up the poor ones so they will develop and become financially independent and then be able to contribute their own resources to the EU economy. The EU economy in total is the strongest and richest in the world.
If considered as a single economy, just like all 50 US states join as the USA, the EU amount to over 22% of the world's total economic output in terms of purchasing power parity, which makes it the largest economy in the world by nominal GDP and the second largest trade bloc economy in the world by PPP valuation of GDP. It is also the largest exporter, and largest importer of goods and services.
So, 500 million people in Europe are provided UHC. But 307 million americans are not and for some reason are being made excuses to get what they should have received ages ago.
Actually there are probably about 20 million uninsured Americans.
And you seem to fail to make the connection that Europe as European Union is ONE nation (under member states) which comprise of 500 million people today and a combination of 27 countries. And ALL of these nations, even the poorest ones who are newly joined members - which is a burden - have been given complete UHC to cover each and all, every single one of them. Not only healthcare, but the entire list of social services and rights so common under their system: sick leave, maternity leave, unemployment benefits, welfare, 5 wk paid vacation a year, 40 hr work weeks, pensions on retirement (generally at 65) and so on and on. And the rich "member states" (countries) chip in to lift up the poor ones so they will develop and become financially independent and then be able to contribute their own resources to the EU economy. The EU economy in total is the strongest and richest in the world.
If considered as a single economy, just like all 50 US states join as the USA, the EU amount to over 22% of the world's total economic output in terms of purchasing power parity, which makes it the largest economy in the world by nominal GDP and the second largest trade bloc economy in the world by PPP valuation of GDP. It is also the largest exporter, and largest importer of goods and services.
So, 500 million people in Europe are provided UHC. But 307 million americans are not and for some reason are being made excuses to get what they should have received ages ago.
Nice try. It's not one governement collecting all the taxes over there and redistributing them. Nice try though.
Nice try. It's not one governement collecting all the taxes over there and redistributing them. Nice try though.
The EU collects fees from all member states (countries). It can in small scale be compared to the system here with Federal taxes and state taxes.
If one of the member states run short, the EU chips in to balance the account.
Actually there are probably about 20 million uninsured Americans.
The news said there was 30 million uninsured first. Now they say its 45 million. No matter whether it is 20, 30 or 45 million - there is no universal health care for 307 million people.
The health care system here SUCKS. Why argue when you can have it for "free" - and if that doesn't suit you, pay extra and have it private. Both options exist in other countries, and can exist here too.
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