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Old 08-27-2009, 01:01 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Huckleberry3911948 View Post
was the father negligent in the incident in any way?
what compelled the state to take death penalty as appropriate.
without a good review of the case i could not make any statement.
how bout making it a little be easier for us to give an opinion.
you are making accusations at the state, but no background.
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No, but I want to see the first hand records not an article that reports preliminary findings. This guy may have a record that the journalist is not showing, there may be other factors that are conveniently being left out of the report to the public that was included to the jury. I don't want to make a decision through the filter of a writer with unknown motivations.
There has been additional background posted in the thread as well as google. Go forth young investigator, I'm not going to lay out a case for his innocence because apparently there is a case being worked on right now because the state may have accidently killed a guy.

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Oh ok. I guess your sarcasm was just a little above my head. I'm not against the death penalty but I don't think it's a big joke when someone is executed -so I'm not following....care to draw me a map?
You are apparently taking offense at the thread title or something, but here's my question:

Let's say it is proven that the state accidently killed someone, will that effect your opinions on the death penalty?
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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You are apparently taking offense at the thread title or something, but here's my question:

Let's say it is proven that the state accidently killed someone, will that effect your opinions on the death penalty?
I'm not taking offense - I just didn't get where you going with the thread....it seemed like you were already expecting a certain type of response.

Anyway, nope it wouldn't change my opinion.
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:05 PM
 
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I'm not taking offense - I just didn't get where you going with the thread....it seemed like you were already expecting a certain type of response.

Anyway, nope it wouldn't change my opinion.
Okay, just checking. So you're okay with innocents being killed by the state as long as it preserves the death penalty? Why is that?
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:08 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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TX is notorious for this. they had a corrupt DA in DFW i think. a place where the majority of cases (not only DP) had to be reviewed.

its crazy.

i hope the truth comes out, no matter how damning.
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Pa
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As I have said. When it is proof positive... caught on camera. Reliable witness, a confession accompanied by proof and a witness, Caught in the act...
What more need be said? They have earned their fate.
As for an innocent ? It is always tragic. No more so than when the state allows people to live indefinetly on death row who are unrepentive cold blooded killers.
For example:
Richard Angelo
Mark Barton
Ted Bundy
Charles Manson
marc doutrox
To name but a very few obviously guilty killers.
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:16 PM
 
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As I have said. When it is proof positive... caught on camera. Reliable witness, a confession accompanied by proof and a witness, Caught in the act...
What more need be said? They have earned their fate.
As for an innocent ? It is always tragic. No more so than when the state allows people to live indefinetly on death row who are unrepentive cold blooded killers.
For example:
Richard Angelo
Mark Barton
Okay, so since we are operating in the frame of reality:

When we execute someone who is innocent, who is guilty and what is the punishment? How do you even handle a situation where someone is proven innocent after an execution?
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:17 PM
 
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No, but I want to see the first hand records not an article that reports preliminary findings. This guy may have a record that the journalist is not showing, there may be other factors that are conveniently being left out of the report to the public that was included to the jury. I don't want to make a decision through the filter of a writer with unknown motivations.
Read the trial transcript if you want to know what evidence was given to the jury.
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Old 08-27-2009, 06:34 PM
 
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Wow, so all it took to get death penalty supporters to not post was to ask them to actually defend the idea under a real scenario where there may have been a mistake?
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Old 08-28-2009, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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Okay, just checking. So you're okay with innocents being killed by the state as long as it preserves the death penalty? Why is that?
I didn't say that - you assumed that. You don't know what my opinion of the death penalty is.
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Old 08-28-2009, 09:15 AM
 
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Okay, so since we are operating in the frame of reality:

When we execute someone who is innocent, who is guilty and what is the punishment? How do you even handle a situation where someone is proven innocent after an execution?
This was one of the main motivations for why the UK abandoned the death penalty. They had several cases where a man had been hanged who was subsequently found to be not guilty or where there were serious doubts as to the guilt of men who had been hanged.

There was also considerable distaste at the macabre sight of crowds outside the jails waiting for the notice of execution to be posted. It had become a circus.
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