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View Poll Results: Should Obama's Green Czar, Van Jones, Be Fired?
Yes - he should be fired 72 79.12%
No - he should not be fired 19 20.88%
Voters: 91. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-02-2009, 03:06 PM
 
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In Van Jones' own words, "I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th. By August, I was a communist."
Um...

the whole quote was

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Can you give examples of Van Jones's "communism" and "socialism" showing in the Green Jobs program?
you're only fooling yourself ya know.
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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A lot of posters on here follow Glenn Beck and express concern as to why the rest of us do not "get it" when Beck goes on and on about radicals.

Here is a good example of why Beck should not be trusted. He has maligned an individual who has promoted deeply market-based solutions to sustainability. I realize this is from a liberal source, but the individual has worked with Jones for years. We should all recognize that these political entertainers - from Beck and Hannity to Olbermann need to twist facts for ratings:

Eva Paterson: Glenn Beck's Attack On Van Jones: Fantasies and Falsehoods
So you are telling me that Van Jones went from being a self described Communist, Marxist and anarchist, to being a huge supporter of "market-based solutions"??

Van Jones, 2002: "I met all these young radical people of color – I mean really radical: communists and anarchists. And it was, like, 'This is what I need to be a part of.' I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary."
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:09 PM
 
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Let me ask this question. I have heard but cannot find any confermation that Van has a 4 year old named Che. Is that true or just a rumor? I sure would like to know the answer to that.
you might be able to answer that yourself -- if you found it online, see if your source gives its source -- links or references proof.
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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So you are telling me that Van Jones went from being a self described Communist, Marxist and anarchist, to being a huge supporter of "market-based solutions"??

Van Jones, 2002: "I met all these young radical people of color – I mean really radical: communists and anarchists. And it was, like, 'This is what I need to be a part of.' I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary."
But he was never in prison and the nice lady at HuffPo says so.
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:10 PM
 
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So you are telling me that Van Jones went from being a self described Communist, Marxist and anarchist, to being a huge supporter of "market-based solutions"??

Van Jones, 2002: "I met all these young radical people of color – I mean really radical: communists and anarchists. And it was, like, 'This is what I need to be a part of.' I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary."
Can you give examples of Van Jones's "communism" and "socialism" showing in the Green Jobs program?
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:10 PM
 
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He is a self-professed communist. He is a racist, based on his videotaped comments. He is in the White House as an advisor to the president.

You can't deny these facts. And these facts should cause him to resign.

Being defended by a "huffing" blogger isn't proof that he is none of these. And they considered him vetted? Because an obviously biased former employer said he was? Suspect.....
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:14 PM
 
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But he was never in prison and the nice lady at HuffPo says so.
How did he get a federal job?!

"Ironically, days after I wrote this essay, San Francisco police officers illegally arrested me and hundreds of other participants in a peaceful protest march.

"The District Attorney later dropped the charges against me, and those of us who were unlawfully arrested won a small legal settlement."
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:22 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I couldn't agree with you more. In fact, the White House owes white people an apology for this comment. Evidently, Obama can't even corral his own horses. What goes around comes around. I hope this guy gets what he deserves.
Why would Obama even want to? Obama's mindset is the same as Jones' - demonize 'white' Americans for any perceived 'injustice':

Obama: "I think whether or not my children or your children will have to struggle with these same issues depends on what we do, and whether we take some mutual responsibility for bridging the divisions that exist right now. And I really want to emphasize the word 'responsibility.' I think that whether you are a white executive living out in the suburbs, who doesn’t want to pay taxes to inner-city children for them to go to school, or you’re an inner-city child who doesn’t want to take responsibility for keeping your street safe and clean, both of those groups have to take some responsibility if we’re going to get beyond the kinds of divisions that we face right now."
Transcript:
http://www.eyeonbooks.com/obama_transcript.pdf

Audio:
Barack Obama - 1995 Audio Interview on "Dreams From My Father"

My comments - first of all, the 'white' is completely unnecessary in Obama's statement. It's race-baiting. The suburbs are very racially diverse and everyone knows that. Secondly, it's not the suburban residents that don't want to pay - it's the CHICAGO residents like Obama, Rahm, Rezko, etc. THEY'RE sticking the rest of the state with 30% of the Chicago Public School System's bill. And thirdly, Chicago's schools spend more per student than the state average, currently spending over $11,000 per student per year. They're not hurting for money for schools in the inner-city.
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:24 PM
 
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He is a self-professed communist. He is a racist, based on his videotaped comments. He is in the White House as an advisor to the president.

You can't deny these facts. And these facts should cause him to resign.

Being defended by a "huffing" blogger isn't proof that he is none of these. And they considered him vetted? Because an obviously biased former employer said he was? Suspect.....
If he's a communist at this present time, please show where it shows in the Green Jobs program.

“The white polluters and the white environmentalists are essentially steering poison into the people of color communities because they don’t have a racial justice frame” -- actually a communist would have put that in economic terms, lol. But are you familiar with E St. Louis? Anniston, AL? He's absolutely right.

"… there’s a problem .. left to itself this new third wave of environmentalism could become eco-apartheid … the ecological ‘haves’ could just get more and the ecological ‘have nots’ could just get less and less… " this is true, sorry if you dont want it to be.
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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Are you people actually suggesting that America doesn't have a history of polluting minority communities?

If so, you are even more ignorant than I ever gave you credit for.
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