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Old 09-04-2009, 10:49 PM
 
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Do you mean to say that our cancer only insurance will drop us if we get it? I really didn't know that but have never seen it happen either.


9 things insurers don't want you to know

How to keep from getting denied
Some insurance companies will veto a doctor’s orders if they feel the treatment isn’t necessary or consider it experimental, says Shernoff. “They do a lot of denial for newer treatments, especially cancer treatments.”

Things insurers don't want you to know - Health care- msnbc.com


Insurance company ditches cancer patient

Sioux City Journal : Insurance company ditches cancer patient (http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2007/11/18/news/top/dfe085fa22c57c128625739700162d81.txt - broken link)

Cancer Patients Often Stranded in Health Insurance Nightmares

Cancer Patients Often Stranded in Health Insurance Nightmares - US News and World Report
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Even conservative economists say that the stimulus should have been bigger, not smaller.

The Earth WILL be uninhabitable due to global warming, but cap and trade is not the answer.

The evil insurance industry drops people every day when they get cancer.

Next.

Would have been nice if it actually were a stimulus package instead of the political payola to Democratic supporters. If that were the case, it may have even done some good. I guess we'll never know.

As usual you have made assertions without sources. Could you name some of these "conservative economists"?

Global warming may be our best hope for sustaining biological life on Earth since temperatures have been dropping like a rock lately. In fact, do you realize that the average surface temperature in the US is only one half of one degree Fahrenheit warmer today than one hundred years ago and falling?

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I'd much rather have private insurance if I were diagnosed with cancer. I've seen the mortality rates for cancer patients in single payer nations.

But let's not confuse health care reform with the turkeys the Democrats are trying to force on us. These bills are more payola to Democrat supporters and a tool the left will use to justify all sorts of new taxes plus premiums, penalties, surtaxes and forced enrollment that will give democrats even more money to lavish on pet causes while underfunding their new program. The new crisis in their health care plan will be used to justify even more taxes. It's called bait and switch and we've seen it in the stimulus bill. Why would we want to go down this road again?
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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YouTube - Slim Pickens: Dr. Strangelove ("Noo-ku-lar Combat") Monologue
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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I wonder if that B-52 was actually photographed flying over those mountains or if the production company had enough sense to realize they could superimpose the image of the jet on a mountainous background thereby saving hundreds of thousands of dollars?

Yeah, I bet they figured that out.

Only an organization as retarded as the current administration would fly a huge jet around just to get some pictures.
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Old 09-05-2009, 06:57 AM
 
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Didn't read the article, just read the thread so far, but do have this to share:
As long as people are thinking in terms of left/right paradigms, and fighting and pointing fingers at each other, the real power players will have their way. It's the classic "divide and conquer".

The U.S. is actually an experiment as to how well humans can govern themselves - it's really not about big government, but about self-government. Many of the concepts presented in the Declaration of Independence were actually taken from the Iroquois Confederacy of Nations. You might want to check out iroquois constitution and iroquois constitution united states

Since its inception, the U.S. experiment has been under attack by those initially based in Europe who were possessed by greed and lust for power. A study of the Rothschild family will reveal much.

What most people who support socialist, marxist, communist, and all the other "ists" don't realize, is that all of Life, every cell of Life, in all its varied forms, is imbued with the Spirit of Freedom; for all comes from Freedom, was created Freely, to be Free. And this continent in particular, has the blood and bones of people who lived freely not that long ago, embedded into the ground everyone is walking on. The Free Spirit of those ancestors has not been silenced. Many still walk the Sacred places. There is another dimension besides the one you see with your eyes.

The struggle of humanity is a long one - those who want to be free and happy, and the schoolyard bullies who want to control others and take what they want from them. What's even more disgraceful are those who would use "the government" to bully others and take from them what they want for themselves. That's the dilemma this country has been in since its inception and still is struggling with today - those who want to use the government to take from others what they want for themselves, because they are unwilling to work for it themselves - so they "elect" bullies to "represent" them at the schoolyard fight. That's why the corruption of politicians is so rampant - most are nothing but schoolyard bullies for hire - even the female ones.

All sorts of noble sounding labels are used to justify "social programs", but the reality is, "charity" is not truly "charity" if it is forced - it's "tyranny". And each person thus becomes enslaved by "big brother". "Big brother" enslaves when it forcibly takes from some, and "big brother" enslaves as people become dependent on it, looking for it to solve their problems. Each time "big brother" forcibly takes from one and gives to another, it robs each person of the ability to meet the challenges of Life and the opportunity to develop the spirit of Love and Caring within them. No one, and no government, can force the spirit of Love and Charity into another. It is developed from within, as each opportunity to express it is met.

The reality is, the struggle will go on until each person truly realizes that they are a Free being and what an awesome responsibility and power that is. How invigorating it can be.

It is for wont of "things" that people enslave themselves and each other, and none of it, truly satisfies the soul, brings Peace to the heart and mind.

All the politico's, with their books, articles, blogs, finger pointing, lobbyists, law making, oppressive frenzy, ... will never be the answer, will never come up with the correct answer for another person. For the answer to each person's happiness and destiny lies within themselves. It's not through a government bail out, government grant, government education, government health care, government trade agreement, government official, ... that a boy becomes a real man, or that a girl becomes a real woman.

As long as Americans look to government to solve their problems, to insulate them from the challenges of Life that make them real whole persons, there will be strife in this nation.

"God Bless the Child who's got his own."
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Old 09-05-2009, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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Pass the stimulus or we'll have a depression.

Pass cap and trade or the Earth will be unihabitable due to global warming.

Pass single payer or the evil insurance industry will drop you when you get cancer.

Hmmm......but all of that IS true.....
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:19 AM
 
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I'm sorry, I need to correct myself.

I posted "Many of the concepts presented in the Declaration of Independence were actually taken from the Iroquois Confederacy of Nations."

It should read ""Many of the concepts presented in the U.S. Constitution were actually taken from the Iroquois Confederacy of Nations."

Don't know what I was thinking.
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:23 AM
 
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As opposed to the obama style of fear-mongering.
We better pass that Stimulus or unemployment will soar to 8.4% !!!
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