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Old 09-13-2009, 12:55 AM
 
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And who are you exactly to impugn others' American-ness? The hate is unbelievable!

I think you are wasting your time trying to get a good answer. I made the same mistake.
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Old 09-13-2009, 12:56 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I think you are wasting your time trying to get a good answer. I made the same mistake.
Oh, trust me. I realize we aren't dealing with a Ph.D.
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Old 09-13-2009, 01:00 AM
 
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Oh, trust me. I realize we aren't dealing with a Ph.D.

Amen. I'll send you a rep when it lets me again.
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Old 09-13-2009, 01:38 AM
 
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*LOL* Do you even realize that the OP is referencing conservative universities not allowing Democratic student organizations on campuses? Go educate yourself or at least read through the thread.
KevK OP ....."So my question is, why should the College Republicans be allowed to exist on liberal campuses where most of the student body detest them and everything they stand for?"

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Old 09-13-2009, 01:43 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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KevK OP ....."So my question is, why should the College Republicans be allowed to exist on liberal campuses where most of the student body detest them and everything they stand for?"

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Purely a hypothetical on KevK's part; whereas, conservative universities are not, in fact, allowing Democratic or liberal organizations on campus.

Where's your outrage for this?

Personally, I agree with your comment that

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Again, you pay your tuition you are entitled to all the privileges and equal right of that institution!
Too bad not everyone does.
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Old 09-13-2009, 02:20 AM
 
Location: PNW
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And who are you exactly to impugn others' American-ness? The hate is unbelievable!
I somewhat agree with him, and it's not exactly political. I'd love to go back to college knowing what I know now and tell SOME of my professors who have absolutely no f-ing experience in "the real world" regarding the subject they were teaching that they are full of $hi*(to a certain extent). I can't say that for all of them, but many skew facts and reality (IMO) to fit an ideal. Some of the biggest offenders are from the more prestigious schools. This is especially so in some of the areas that shape a persons views and beliefs. It seems that, in some cases, many of these people can only get to where they are because the schools are more concerned with the number of pieces of paper on their walls rather than what they have actually done. That being said...their views are often shaped in an extremely controlled environment because they haven't had time to actually DO anything for real. They morph into what a perfect world should be way of thinking rather than what it really is. Then...they surround themselves with others who got there the same way compounding the effect. 2 cents...maybe worth less.
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Old 09-13-2009, 02:39 AM
 
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Oh, trust me. I realize we aren't dealing with a Ph.D.
I bet you sleep great at night while dreaming about all those great intraweb battles you won earlier in the day don't you?
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Old 09-13-2009, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Westwood, MA
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If you want to hold your University to the same standard as Bob Jones, Regent, and Liberty, by all means emulate their tolerance to opposition. You'll soon find that your University is taken as seriously as those institutions. You can't claim the moral high ground if you don't actually take it.

I'm not liberal (I'm a flaming moderate), but until recently I'd always admired the liberal attitudes toward free and open speech. It seems that with the recent shifts in political power some adherents are straying from this ideal and proposing curbs on dissent (my least favorite is "I'm intolerant of intolerance"). I don't think it's a systematic flaw among liberals--I blame a vocal minority--but it is disheartening how often I encounter it (not to blame the OP, who later suggested this was more of a debate topic, but some out there really do want to limit speech they find hateful or intolerant)
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Old 09-13-2009, 06:46 AM
 
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You can't find more intolerant people than liberals. Ban intolerance from campuses and you'd lose 75% of the teaching staff from many if not most colleges and universities.
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Old 09-13-2009, 07:17 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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I went to college at both a city college and, for the last 2 years, at a private university. They both had one thing in common and that was they had "College Republicans" and other neo con clubs that, at both colleges, were out of step with the vast majority of the students there. They handed out pro Reagan literature and put out a weekly newspaper. They were tolerated by the majority of students until they invited an unpopular dictator (think his name was Calero or something like that) to come and speak which erupted into a riot with blood being thrown and the liberals running the speaker off the platform. After that they became pretty much a non item and the newspaper went away because the local advertisers in Evanston did not want to deal with the politics of it anymore.
But it occurs to me that the university tolerated the Republicans because they believe in free speech. But conservative universities such as Bob Jones, Regent and Liberty do not allow Democrats on campus. If you go to school there and they discover that you are a Democrat, you can be expelled. Democrats are not allowed to speak on campus.
So my question is, why should the College Republicans be allowed to exist on liberal campuses where most of the student body detest them and everything they stand for?


thats like asking if liberals and all political dicussion should be banned from all campuses. excluing discussion about both political parties, is just a sure sign that a dictatorship is going on and not free elections.
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