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Old 09-17-2009, 11:49 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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AP NewsBreak: Nuke agency says Iran can make bomb
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Old 09-17-2009, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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And how long have we been hearing this nonsense?
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Old 09-17-2009, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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And how long have we been hearing this nonsense?
When have you ever heard the IAEA making this claim?

I guess you'll be a believer when Israel is turned to glass.

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VIENNA (AP) - Experts at the world's top atomic watchdog are in agreement that Tehran has the ability to make a nuclear bomb and is on the way to developing a missile system able to carry an atomic warhead, according to a secret report seen by The Associated Press.

The document drafted by senior officials at the International Atomic Energy Agency is the clearest indication yet that the agency's leaders share Washington's views on Iran's weapon-making capabilities.
We're finally seeing obama's version of "smart power".

His policies are going to start a war.
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Old 09-17-2009, 12:24 PM
 
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As the maniacs and our enemies in the would become more well armed, our dear leader is working hard to weaken America and set us up for an attack.
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Old 09-17-2009, 12:28 PM
 
Location: On Top
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LOL the thread title makes it look like they gave Iran permission!
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Old 09-17-2009, 12:34 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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LOL the thread title makes it look like they gave Iran permission!
That you gotta take up with who wrote it. I just copied it as I do with all the threads I start
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Old 09-17-2009, 12:36 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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LOL the thread title makes it look like they gave Iran permission!

That's what I thought too. That's a Leno headline.
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Old 09-17-2009, 01:15 PM
 
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Default That was a useless article...

Incredibly vague.

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Experts at the world's top atomic watchdog are in agreement that Tehran has the ability to make a nuclear bomb
What does that mean? They know how? That's unavoidable. Any nation with universities can train people that can build a bomb. The technology is sixty years old. The question is how sophisticated they can go - a 2000-pound nuke is an entirely different threat than a 200-pound one.

They have gathered the materials? That is harder. It would be news if they had. (I harbor no illusions that they won't eventually, though. They're smart, resourceful and dedicated.)

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and is on the way to developing a missile system able to carry an atomic warhead
Another task that isn't altogether too hard - if you have a sophisticated warhead that is small enough, light enough and engineered well enough to survive the launch. It took serious testing to develop the current crop of Russian and US warheads.

I think they'll be able to build a nuke in the next 2-3 years. I think they'll be able to launch a reasonably reliable and precise IRBM in the next 2-3 years. I do have to wonder if they'll be able to fit their nuke on top of their IRBM.

As can probably be told, I'm somewhat resigned to the thought of Iran with nukes - there's no bulls-eye target that'll stop them, they undoubtedly learned from the Osirak strike. Bomb them now, and you may at best delay them for some years, at worst trigger an uncontainable conflict. You'll also place the current regime firmly in power, **** off our current Shia allies in Iraq and probably have to spend a lot of time calming down the Saudis.

On the other hand, I see no reason to believe that an Iran with nukes will immediately trigger a strike on Israel. They're not dumb. They know that any missile leaving Iranian territory will be considered a possible nuke. And they know that Israel and the world will come down on them like a ton of bricks.

The logical motivation is this:Having a nuke is the globally accepted "get-out-of-US-invasion" card. Iran looked at US attitudes and actions towards Iraq (no bomb) and North Korea (has bomb) and drew their own conclusions.
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Old 09-17-2009, 01:21 PM
 
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LOL the thread title makes it look like they gave Iran permission!
For anyone paying any attention to Iran for the last few years, they know that there has been a big question as to whether or not Iran can make a bomb. So the wording would only be confusing to someone out of the loop.
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Old 09-17-2009, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Orlando
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and Bush, Cheney, Powell, Rice and Rumsfeld said Iraq had WMD's... doesn't mean its true!
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