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Old 10-02-2009, 11:58 PM
 
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So the witch hunt continues. Guilt by association. I have known all sorts of people throughout my life and sometimes times they were not the most savory, but fate or circumstances brought us together. I would not appreciate being judged based on something they might have done in the past. Some political author was being interviewed and he said something that made me really think. Here's an analogy...when the FBI wants to crack a counterfeit ring they hire the expert in the field, a master counterfeiter. Obama needed to unravel a lot of damage left behind from previous administrations and what better way to know how the knot got tied than going to the source of people that might know. Obama, if you ever cared to read anything about him besides the slander, you might come to understand that he is a very intelligent and strategic thinking man. Not enough time has gone by after what he has inherited to make a fair judgement yet. Two wars, a failing economy, no diplomacy for eight years on foreign affairs, corrupted departments within the government and on and on. It's too soon to condemn him. BTW...Van Jones was in college when he had any inclination towards Communism and if you read about that instead of listening to the taiking heads, you might not make uninformed comments.
It is one thing to have known people in the past who were corrupt. That is guilt by association. When you appoint people czars with corrupted pasts that goes beyond guilt by association. If Obama did not vet his appointees, he is derelict in his duty as POTUS.
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Old 10-03-2009, 12:08 AM
 
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Sorry, but "Czar" ranks up there w/ "Hussien" , in my mind. If I see either word, I automatically think " Person w/ agenda- don't waste your time."

& skip it.
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Old 10-03-2009, 12:09 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Reading the OP it's like a Scientology practitioner saying they just came to the conclusion that drugs are to blame.

The opinion has already been reached, it's already been expressed and reinforced. Just a justification was finally built after the decision was made that might possibly reach the conclusion where the speaker doesn't look completely nuts and easily dismissed.

It's logical conclusion in reverse that is usually used to justify some illogical hatred or knee jerk reaction.
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Old 10-03-2009, 12:16 AM
 
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Obama has created a deep partisan divide in this country. He lied throughout his campaign and people bought into his hope and change which turned out to be bait and switch. The left were so happy to see him elected President that they will defend him no matter the circumstance.
Are you aware that Bush started this when he decided to invade Iraq? That is what started this recent, ridiculous left vs. left bafoonery that is happening in the US right now. The conservatives were defending every single action Bush took too, no matter how foolish it was.

Obama didn't start it. Bush and Cheney's extreme acts in the White House did.

The conservatives of America are in an uproar now though because they can't hande a liberal, black man in charge.

But really, most problems the US is facing have been in the making for decades.

If you seriously think that Obama is the cause, then you are obviously not very well educated on recent US history and politics.
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Old 10-03-2009, 12:21 AM
 
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Are you aware that Bush started this when he decided to invade Iraq? That is what started this recent, ridiculous left vs. left bafoonery that is happening in the US right now. The conservatives were defending every single action Bush took too, no matter how foolish it was.

Obama didn't start it. Bush and Cheney's extreme acts in the White House did.

The conservatives of America are in an uproar now though because they can't hande a liberal, black man in charge.

But really, most problems the US is facing have been in the making for decades.

If you seriously think that Obama is the cause, then you are obviously not very well educated on recent US history and politics.
You are the one who is not up to speed on current events. While the left was bashing GWB, Americans just let it pass. Big deal. While many did not agree with him, he never told people who disagreed with him to step back and let him fix the problems of the previous administration. Obama did that. He has created a huge partisan divide with that behavior.
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Old 10-03-2009, 12:33 AM
 
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You are the one who is not up to speed on current events. While the left was bashing GWB, Americans just let it pass. Big deal. While many did not agree with him, he never told people who disagreed with him to step back and let him fix the problems of the previous administration. Obama did that. He has created a huge partisan divide with that behavior.
This is the result of listening to your gut?
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Old 10-03-2009, 12:54 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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You are the one who is not up to speed on current events. While the left was bashing GWB, Americans just let it pass. Big deal. While many did not agree with him, he never told people who disagreed with him to step back and let him fix the problems of the previous administration. Obama did that. He has created a huge partisan divide with that behavior.
Grow up.

This isn't about your political beliefs.
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Old 10-03-2009, 12:59 AM
 
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Grow up.

This isn't about your political beliefs.
Admit that Obama is an arrogant fool who dared to tell people to stop talking and let him fix the mess.
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Old 10-03-2009, 01:00 AM
 
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Obama appointed a self proclaimed communist as his "green czar". That alone is enough discredit Obama. He appointed a man who failed to report a statutory rape crime as his "safe schools" czar. He tried to appoint tax cheat Tom Daschle to his cabinet. He did appoint tax cheat Timothy Geithner as Secretary of the Treasurey. That is so hysterically funny. Again, I have more but my fingers are in need of a rest.
He is not a self-proclaimed communist. Lots of people protested and had extreme views while they were in college and this is an example of another statement taken out of context. Are you aware that Van Jones wrote a book, "The Green Collar Economy" that argued for saving the US free-market economy from stagflation by investing in green innovation, infrastructure, and industries, creating millions of jobs in the private sector?

As for Kevin Jennings, the school czar that you speak of, he DID NOT fail to report a statutory rape. The student was sixteen years old and the age of consent in Massachusetts is sixteen. There was no rape. More lies. This is all part of the right-wing smear campaign and again, if it can't be proven, it's not a FACT.

Tom Daschle made a mistake on his taxes and corrected it months before Obama was even elected. Another lie. Timothy Geithner says he made a mistake and again, it's been corrected. Now, would you like me to pick one of the most recent Republican presidents and show you that I can do the same thing by taking things out of context, making things up and exaggerating connections or associations? There are no special circumstances, just the usual right-wing smear campaign X 10. I am sure that Daschle and Geithner are not the only ones that were late or made a mistake on their taxes.
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Old 10-03-2009, 01:00 AM
 
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Admit that Obama is an arrogant fool who dared to tell people to stop talking and let him fix the mess.
That your gut or your heart talking there, ma'am?
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