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Old 10-12-2009, 06:09 PM
 
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I agree with Bluefly that you should not rule out Minnesota. When dealing with the "MIdwest" there is a difference between those states in the Great Plains and those bording the Great Lakes. The Great Plains States from North Dakota to Oklahoma are quite conservative. However Minnesota and Wisconsin are actually more on the progressive side...look at how they've been voting in federal elections recently. There is a possibility for these two states to follow the New England states.

Secondly, the Federal Government can and does get the states to fall into line on certain issues when it deems it necessary to do so. For example, all of the states raised the drinking age to 21 by the 1980's due to pressure from the federal government. How did the federal government do this? By threatening to withhold federal highway funds to maintain the road network. (You will learn this in American Government 101). The US government does not want to withdraw these monies for obvious reasons. Hence, it often allows for years of negotiations over a specific issues before the federal government draws the line in the sand. Then, the states are eventually forced to bend to the federal governments will...The point of this? This is the most likely scenario on how the federal government would get all states to legalize same sex marriages. (it is years away and will take even more years to complete).
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Old 10-12-2009, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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All of them. Make it nationally accepted. Or is that too much to ask of this country filled with phobes ?
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Old 10-12-2009, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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All of them. Make it nationally accepted. Or is that too much to ask of this country filled with phobes ?
It is a States right issue. You know - 10th Amendment to the Constitution???

'course now in Arizona, Marriage is defined by our Constitution. Same with ..... I think, some 25 other states??
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:05 PM
 
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'course now in Arizona, Marriage is defined by our Constitution. Same with ..... I think, some 25 other states??
More than that, actually. I think it's closer to 40.

The Defense Of Marriage Act should be abolished, however. The federal government should recognize all legal marriages.
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Old 10-13-2009, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Little Rock, AR
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I agree with Bluefly that you should not rule out Minnesota. When dealing with the "MIdwest" there is a difference between those states in the Great Plains and those bording the Great Lakes. The Great Plains States from North Dakota to Oklahoma are quite conservative. However Minnesota and Wisconsin are actually more on the progressive side...look at how they've been voting in federal elections recently. There is a possibility for these two states to follow the New England states.

Secondly, the Federal Government can and does get the states to fall into line on certain issues when it deems it necessary to do so. For example, all of the states raised the drinking age to 21 by the 1980's due to pressure from the federal government. How did the federal government do this? By threatening to withhold federal highway funds to maintain the road network. (You will learn this in American Government 101). The US government does not want to withdraw these monies for obvious reasons. Hence, it often allows for years of negotiations over a specific issues before the federal government draws the line in the sand. Then, the states are eventually forced to bend to the federal governments will...The point of this? This is the most likely scenario on how the federal government would get all states to legalize same sex marriages. (it is years away and will take even more years to complete).
Don't forget about Illinois. It's a progressive state in many ways especially with the dominance of Chicago politics over rural Illinois, in my opinion.
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Old 11-01-2009, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Bethesda, MD
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Hawaii, Washington, Oregon, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, New Mexico, Colorado, Rhode Island, New York, Maryland, New Jersey, and California (eventually)
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Old 11-01-2009, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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My point is that more states could allow gay marriages not only for equality rights but also for economic reasons.
But the last few to allow it will by the nature of the situation have the least to gain in sales tax revenue. Six states are already splitting up that pot. By the time it's legal in 20 states that effect will be negligible. Although there could be other economic factors like the means-test issue you mentioned as well as the possibility of boycotts.
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Old 11-01-2009, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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My prediction in order of the next 10 is: DC (pretty safe bet now), New Jersey, Rhode Island, New York, Hawaii, Wisconsin, Illinois, Oregon, Washington, Nevada
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Old 11-01-2009, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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IMO, it is doubtful you will see more than 2 or three in the next decade.
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Old 11-01-2009, 04:58 PM
 
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IMO, it is doubtful you will see more than 2 or three in the next decade.
I bet people were thinking the same thing about a year ago, and then four more states approved it.

I think attitudes are changing faster than a lot of people realize.
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