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Old 10-12-2009, 08:25 PM
 
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I gauge my judgment as a former attending surgeon and by phd degree from tier one school in this country. I heard this news from radio station right next to ESPN, not CNN. I just use your best friend, google, to dig it out as a supporting document.
Are you still googling for a list of homes that have been sold at auction to pay medical bills?
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Old 10-12-2009, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Um, so you want to pull us out of the recession by a national healthcare, while ignoring the fact that this will be $1Trillion removed from the GDP for OTHER THINGS. haha, thats a good excuse.

I might go tomorrow to get medicine for the flu I have, just doing my part to help the GDP, but wait, I guess I wont be able to buy that new tv. haha

What is more important than health?
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Old 10-12-2009, 08:28 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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What is more important than health?

The liberals have controlled congress for 3 years and all of a sudden they and you think it is so important.

What was they waiting on for the last 2 1/2 years?

Guess it was not so important now was it?
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Old 10-12-2009, 08:29 PM
 
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Do you know something these Harvard researchers don't?

Read more: Medical Bills Leading Cause of Bankruptcy, Harvard Study Finds
I noticed you didnt quote the story, here, let me help

Most of the medical bankruptcy filers were middle class; 56 percent owned a home and the same number had attended college. In many cases, illness forced breadwinners to take time off from work -- losing income and job-based health insurance precisely when families needed it most.

National health care will not solve this problem. These same individuals will have to take time off of work.

Since 56% of them owned a home, find me ONE that lost their home due to medical bills? Why is it so hard? answer: because it doesnt happen. Medical bills = a judgment, PERIOD.. They dont file bankruptcy over the bills, they file bankruptcy because they got behind on other bills while taking time off of work, because they didnt save money in the bank to cover their bills in the event of an illness.

national health care will not solve your examples, people who dont have money to cover household expenses, will still not have money to cover household expenses and will still need to file bankruptcy when they get behind due to an illness.
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Old 10-12-2009, 08:31 PM
 
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What is more important than health?
Water, heat, shelter, food..

But you ask the question as if anyone is being denied healthcare..
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Old 10-12-2009, 08:34 PM
 
Location: NW MT
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I am foreigner who graduated from and work in this country. I am surprised that there are no public option in this country, and medical expense is one of the leading cause of bankruptcy in this country.

Meanwhile, insurance company and lawyers collected a huge portion of profit from health care plan and mal-practice insurance.

I support a public option. I also agree that health care insurance should not be a profitable business.

Ya... tort reform is something the people in America want because it will bring down costs quite a bit but our Gov has no interest in doing what the people want, only what isn't in out best interest.

Ya... our Gov insist a gov option is the only type of "choice and competition" that will fix all that is wrong with our system yet they refuse to take down State fences so the HUNDREDS upon HUNDREDS of EXISTING insurance companies we currently have in the country can compete with one another reducing costs. Only a Gov option will do that...

What a disgrace the people are that cry for the Gov to provide for them !
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Old 10-12-2009, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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I noticed you didnt quote the story, here, let me help

Most of the medical bankruptcy filers were middle class; 56 percent owned a home and the same number had attended college. In many cases, illness forced breadwinners to take time off from work -- losing income and job-based health insurance precisely when families needed it most.

National health care will not solve this problem. These same individuals will have to take time off of work.

Since 56% of them owned a home, find me ONE that lost their home due to medical bills? Why is it so hard? answer: because it doesnt happen. Medical bills = a judgment, PERIOD.. They dont file bankruptcy over the bills, they file bankruptcy because they got behind on other bills while taking time off of work, because they didnt save money in the bank to cover their bills in the event of an illness.

national health care will not solve your examples, people who dont have money to cover household expenses, will still not have money to cover household expenses and will still need to file bankruptcy when they get behind due to an illness.
If people had proper and timely access to needed medical care, do you think they could prevent their illness from becoming more serious therefore losing less time of work?
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Old 10-12-2009, 08:39 PM
 
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If people had proper and timely access to needed medical care, do you think they could prevent their illness from becoming more serious therefore losing less time of work?
um, people do. It costs about $75 to go see a family doctor. If you cant invest $75 in your own health, then why do you expect me to?
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Old 10-12-2009, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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Done...with a personal note...also on FB. Another great link from Jill! Bravo, lady!
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Old 10-12-2009, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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If people had proper and timely access to needed medical care, do you think they could prevent their illness from becoming more serious therefore losing less time of work?
No, not every illness can be detected months ahead of time.

For all you know these people got regular checkups and could have been just fine up until they fell ill.

You're stretching here to make it sound like healthcare insurance subsidies will solve all of America's problems.

Having a savings account for a rainy day would have helped them more then a piece of paper stamped "subsidized insurance".
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