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Old 10-17-2009, 08:08 AM
 
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The problem with studies like this is there are no controls. To Assume that the reason these guys came to the rescue is because they are minorities is just that, an assumtion. I didnt see a group of 3 white punks walk by so we dont know how they may have responded.

I think they helped because they were young, in a group of 3 and oblivious to the dangers of poking there nose in someone elses business.
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Old 10-17-2009, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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Smart people with common sense
Do not make comments like this

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who look down on certain races as racist or bigots. But in my opinion alot of it is human nature, uncontrollable.

In society we do see an inordinate amount of African Americans on tv regarding drug related arrest, violent crimes like armed robbery, gang murders, etc...
How can you not absorb what you see on tv and many times in every day life and not have that negatively affect or feeling towards an entire race.

For example I sell items on Craiglist and eBay all the time. And I haven't noticed this but my friend did. That when I have a buyer who sounds black on the phone, I will meet that person at a populated area during the day.
But if its a white person I have many times had the person come by my house and try the product in my home, sitting on my couch and everything.
Even once a young white couple gave me a check for a TV I was selling (close to $1000). My friend said YOU ACCEPTED A FRICKING CHECK R U CRAZY! And I said "what? They were white!"


Again I am African American and all this sounds bad but it's only a product of the pitfalls I have seen and continue to see (recent Chicago Beating comes for example) in my black communities and thoughout the U.S.

This video though forcing me to look in the mirror and realize that sterotypes, even ones that I practice everyday; can be turned right on it's head.
But oh well.

The video was nice to see - I saw something like on 60 minutes once before - it had to do with Iphones or Ipods or something and people were surprised that one of the few people who turned it in to lost & found was a black teenager.

It's scary to see that so many people walked by and did nothing...I guess if you want to kidnap a kid in broad daylight all you have to do is yell at them like you're their parent and people will leave you alone
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Old 10-17-2009, 09:08 AM
 
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Hey Rush, THIS is what happens in "Obama's America"
Actually this video was done several years ago while Bush was president.
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Old 10-17-2009, 09:43 AM
 
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The problem with studies like this is there are no controls. To Assume that the reason these guys came to the rescue is because they are minorities is just that, an assumtion. I didnt see a group of 3 white punks walk by so we dont know how they may have responded.

I think they helped because they were young, in a group of 3 and oblivious to the dangers of poking there nose in someone elses business.
Why would you compare those young men to 'punks'? They were neatly dressed and in no way came across as 'punks', 'thugs', or anything remotely 'sketchy'.

Well, I suppose they were black, so theres that.......
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Old 10-17-2009, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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why would you compare those young men to 'punks'? They were neatly dressed and in no way came across as 'punks', 'thugs', or anything remotely 'sketchy'.

Well, i suppose they were black, so theres that.......
lol :d
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Old 10-17-2009, 09:57 AM
 
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Why would you compare those young men to 'punks'? They were neatly dressed and in no way came across as 'punks', 'thugs', or anything remotely 'sketchy'.

Well, I suppose they were black, so theres that.......
Good point! lol!
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Old 10-17-2009, 09:57 AM
 
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Why would you compare those young men to 'punks'? They were neatly dressed and in no way came across as 'punks', 'thugs', or anything remotely 'sketchy'.

Well, I suppose they were black, so theres that.......
maybe one made such an assumption because they appeared like they were going to just punch the lights out of someone first, then ask questions later.

The guy could have been the girls step dad, her uncle, her teacher..

Bravo for stepping in, but I would have been more than likely to step asside, call the police, and follow the man so the police knew where to find him but thats more than likely because I tend to not travel in groups. Punching a man without knowing whats going on? yeah, that might be a definition of a "punk"
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Good point! lol!
Its rather pathetic to assume another poster is racist for not making any racist comments..
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Old 10-17-2009, 10:03 AM
 
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The problem with studies like this is there are no controls. To Assume that the reason these guys came to the rescue is because they are minorities is just that, an assumtion. I didnt see a group of 3 white punks walk by so we dont know how they may have responded.

I think they helped because they were young, in a group of 3 and oblivious to the dangers of poking there nose in someone elses business.
You're over analyzing it Cage, no one ASSUMES that they came to the rescue BECAUSE they were black. The study/video showed us briefly that young blacks can be heroes, caring and helping ppl as well.

If someone would have polled me before watching the video, I would've said the blacks would not have helped or cared and whites would be the first to jump up to help the young girl....

And to that point is where the video hits ppl
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Old 10-17-2009, 10:06 AM
 
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You're over analyzing it Cage, no one ASSUMES that they came to the rescue BECAUSE they were black. The study/video showed us briefly that young blacks can be heroes, caring and helping ppl as well.
Was that ever in doubt?
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If someone would have polled me before watching the video, I would've said the blacks would not have helped or cared and whites would be the first to jump up to help the young girl....
Then I say that says more about you than the individuals who walked past.
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Old 10-17-2009, 10:10 AM
 
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maybe one made such an assumption because they appeared like they were going to just punch the lights out of someone first, then ask questions later.

The guy could have been the girls step dad, her uncle, her teacher..

Bravo for stepping in, but I would have been more than likely to step asside, call the police, and follow the man so the police knew where to find him but thats more than likely because I tend to not travel in groups. Punching a man without knowing whats going on? yeah, that might be a definition of a "punk"

Its rather pathetic to assume another poster is racist for not making any racist comments..
PGH C'mon bro, where has anyone insinuated that poster was racist because he called them punks? You trying to defend a charge no one stated.
I just thought it was funny that he would describe them that way.
He could believe every black guy in america is a punk and I wouldn't call him a racist
PPL in America (esp Blacks) need to realize the difference between racial stereotypes (or racial insensitive comments) and someone who is actually Racist (who I define as someone whom HATES a race for whatever reason)

Ive seen plenty of White ladies clutch their purses in the elevators when I'm on with them alone (many have heard points like this)
And I dont think or assume any one of them were "Racist"
Matter of fact they are smart, They have a fear of blacks (in certain situations)

Sh*t I do too!
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