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I am not trying to define justice for you. If you choose to define justice as the involuntary servitude of oppressed people to produce a particular idealized society with particular outcomes, that is your choice. If you feel that justice, or "fairness" comes as a result of initiating force against other who are innocent of any crime, so be it.
I do not equate mandated outcomes which treat individuals differently and unequally as justice and that is my choice too.
Live and let live. (Unless you live differently than how I want you to live, and then I will inflict "justice" upon you through government force ) Gotta' love the enlightenment of tyrants!
Your argument is the direct opposite of "live and let live". And you seem a little old and Dickensian to be an anarchist.
I'm not far left, but I consider myself liberal mainly because I think everyone deserves a "fair go in life" (as they say in Australia). That means that people should be properly equipped to take advantage of the oppportunities that come their way. and to have that "fair go" you need a proper education and affordable healthcare.
I have never met a liberal that opposed those things, but I have met many conservatives that do. Very telling, IMO.
As a liberal, would you support toppling the Iranian regime? Which liberal does that today?
And what's a 'fair go'? Should I not care about my retirement funds, counting on liberals like you to support me?
For some reason, I find that most liberals tend to be very selfish in their practice.
Ditto. Plus, conservatives think they belong in your personal business (gay marriage, abortion, etc.). I'd much rather have the govt. involved in health care and salary caps in bailed out corporations than in my bedroom or my uterus.
Be sure to let me know when government does something to earn this blind faith you have in them.
Did YOU read anything you linked? Did the fact that the Frankfurt school started in Germany in 1923 go straight over your head? Do I need to tell you what Germany was like in 1923? My grandparents were living in Germany ...well, they were barely living, they were starving ... please, do yourself a favor and look at the roots of what you are posting before making the common mistake that most right wingers make and taking the past out of context, using today's standards to judge the past.
Why do you think they established this school?
You can't always count on starving peasants to fall in line.
So, I'd answer that more liberals vote for helping the poor than conservatives, but more conservatives actually HELP the poor.
Yes, the specifics of those surveys always reveal that the biggest givers turn out to be poor people in the poorest states, which are also the reddest. IOW, people who know the meaning of need and want to alleviate it. IOW: liberals at heart.
Not fair-weather tax-deduction typical Republican "givers", by a long shot.
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) Gotta' love the enlightenment of tyrants!
