Sending Gays To The Death Chamber: Will We Do It? (soldier, Brown)

[KevK]

Originally Posted by cobolt

Honestly, Kev, I question some of your threads. How can you even equate the practices of a country like Uganda, basically a third world country, with that of the USA? Can't you present some intelligent thread worthy of debate?

I am simply asking a question. Since another country may soon have such a law (Uganda) and since at least some people in this country advocated for that law and since that law requires extradition, IF the country of Uganda issues an extradition request, do you feel we should honour that request or tell Uganda to go to Hell? My view is the latter BTW.

[Lindsey_Mcfarren]

Originally Posted by KevK

The country of Uganda is considering a law that will apply the death penalty to people who engage in acts of homosexuality. Many Republican Christians in this country are in favour of these laws.
One part of the new law states that, not only does it apply to all acts of homosexuality in Uganda itself, whether committed by a foreigner or a citizen BUT the law also applies to ALL citizens of Uganda no matter WHERE they reside in the world. The law says they shall be EXTRADITED to Uganda to face a possible death sentence. So if 2 homosexuals have a rump romp here in the USA and one of them is from Uganda and the government of Uganda request we extradite that homosexual to face possible death, should the United States honour that request?

Uganda considers death sentence for gay sex in bill before parliament | World news | The Guardian

The article I read mentioned three or four CHRISTIAN organizations that have been stirring the pot there against Gay people in Uganda. It makes me SICK.
This particular KIND of christian is looking more and more like the Nazis.

[KevK]

Originally Posted by GregW

I guess Uganda has not recovered from Ide Amin. The politicians do not have any respect for Human Rights and the pro population growth (just what a starving country really needs) Kristian Klergy thinks killing people with different mores is blessed by God but requires secular enforcement.

Nice to know the United States does not have a monopoly on bigoted, hateful religious fanatics.

Although we have way more of them than we should, the USA is pretty far down the list when it comes to religious nutcases. The middle east makes us look pretty mild.

[1979]

I don't know where the OP has been, but the Third World has been executing people on the grounds of homosexual orientation forever. The world will forever remember apartheid, but when it comes to executing people on the grounds of sexual orientation, the world media turns a blind eye.

Just the idea of this kind of irrational, hysterical reaction to homosexuality is indication in itself of the dimented mind set when it comes to something as simple as having a mate of the same gender.

[KevK]

Originally Posted by GOPATTA2D

Another interesting KevK thread.

I've never met anyone who thinks like this. Not once. I'm not sure who they "many republican Christians" are you refer to. There are many who may not approve of homosexuality that would never advocate harming them.

I can think of other political reasons for laws like these. The US would grant political amnesty to two homos who would face the death penalty at home. Uganda passes the law, and half the nation is suddenly gay tourists in the US.

I think the Obama administration MIGHT grant amnesty in a such a case. I doubt that Bush would have. The USA is extremely hard about letting in political cases. Much easier for them to get into Canada.

[AnUnidentifiedMale]

Originally Posted by 1979

I don't know where the OP has been, but the Third World has been executing people on the grounds of homosexual orientation forever. The world will forever remember apartheid, but when it comes to executing people on the grounds of sexual orientation, the world media turns a blind eye.

It's a combination of homophobia and a lack of empathy. It's difficult for a lot of heterosexual people to get past the "eww factor". It's much easier to ignore the issue than to think about it.

I think gay groups would score points with heterosexual men by producing ad campaigns featuring groups of hot women kissing and having sex with each other. The sexual orientation of the women doesn't matter much - just show hot girls and slap text on the ad that says, "Gay Equality Now!" and I bet it would change the minds of millions of heterosexual men.

[1979]

Originally Posted by KevK

I think the Obama administration MIGHT grant amnesty in a such a case. I doubt that Bush would have. The USA is extremely hard about letting in political cases. Much easier for them to get into Canada.

Extremely hard about letting in political cases?? Really? Are you aware of the Islamic Sudanese and Somali refugees that have been coming here? Often, never adapting to our society, hating our culture and way of life, and joining Al qaeda....think its an exageration? Think again...

What about all the refugees from West Africa, and Guatamala?

[KevK]

Originally Posted by AnUnidentifiedMale

This has been in the news lately. You're right - it's not always easy to confirm that someone is gay.

It's impossible to know exactly how many individuals have sought and gained asylum based specifically on sexual orientation because the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services doesn't separate its figures by category. When contacted by NEWSWEEK, a media-relations manager at the agency said that the bureau doesn't have the right computer software to break down the reasons why people are seeking asylum. Nonetheless, anecdotal evidence suggests that the number of people applying for asylum based on sexual orientation may be increasing.

Are More Gays, Lesbians Seeking Asylum in U.S.? | Newsweek National News | Newsweek.com

It is kind of funny when you think about homosexuals from Africa, Jamaica and South America seeking asylum in the USA while homosexual in the USA are seeking- and getting- asylum in Canada for the persecution they face in the USA!
Lesbian U.S. soldier wins bid for asylum

[KevK]

Originally Posted by hawkeye2009

What the hell? Which particular American Republicans are promoting death to gays? That is absurd.

It's unlikely at this point that anything can be done to stop Ugandan leaders from passing the Anti-Homosexuality Law. According to Rice's report, LGBT Ugandans are already making plans to leave the country.

But the involvement of the U.S.'s elected representatives and evangelists should not be ignored. Human Rights Watch has condemend the bill as threatening basic human liberties and human rights defenders in Uganda, as well as progress on the eradication of HIV/AIDS in the region.

Uganda anti-gay bill supported by US Congressmen and Evangelists

[Chatteress]

Originally Posted by AnUnidentifiedMale

I would argue that some Christians have a victim mentality. Christians are clearly in the majority in the U.S., but still, they believe they're being oppressed.

I specifically stated this forum not the US! Read anyone of the zillion threads bashing Christianity on here and you will see the truth of my statement.