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Old 12-05-2009, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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We, the public, have been hoodwinked by the stimulus packages. We were told and it his been sold that the stimulus packages were necessary to bailout financial institutions and create jobs. We were told that the sky was falling and if we didn't support the stimulus packages then disaster would occur. The bottom line is that a stimulus package is not a stimulus package but rather a trojan horse disguising what it really is, which is a tax increase.
Bad housing and lending regulatory policy since the 1970s is a major culprit that has brought the United States to it's knees financially. Both major political parties contributed to this. In order to make up for the disastrous results of this bad policy the government need money....our money. They basically had two ways to get our money. First, our taxes could have been immediately increased which was not politically feasible at the time. Second, they could "borrow money" in the form of a stimulus package, which was the most politically feasible. The problem is that this "borrowed money" will have to be paid back(plus interest) and the only way to do that is increase taxes.
Yes, the public has been hoodwinked. When we supported a stimulus package we basically supported huge tax increases in the near future to pay for both the "borrowed money" as well as the interest on the borrowed money. All that remains now is for the government to use enough crisis scare tactics to try and get support for tax increases and more borrowing. Scare tactics like the world will end as we know it if we don't pass a Cap and Trade bill. Scare tactics like the United States will go bankrupt if we don't increase taxes in order to lower our huge debt.
We are like lambs being led to the slaughter. It's time for the public to wake up and demand that government(both parties) change it's ways so that individuals and families are not the ones left bankrupt in the end.
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Any smart person who knows how to read could have told you that.

That was not a stimulus, that was a porkulus bill.
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:15 AM
 
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We, the public, have been hoodwinked by the stimulus packages.
Ahh nope... Some of us knew it wouldnt work, only the liberals and those who thought it would, got hoodwinked..
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:32 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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We, the public, have been hoodwinked by the stimulus packages. We were told and it his been sold that the stimulus packages were necessary to bailout financial institutions and create jobs. We were told that the sky was falling and if we didn't support the stimulus packages then disaster would occur. The bottom line is that a stimulus package is not a stimulus package but rather a trojan horse disguising what it really is, which is a tax increase.
Bad housing and lending regulatory policy since the 1970s is a major culprit that has brought the United States to it's knees financially. Both major political parties contributed to this. In order to make up for the disastrous results of this bad policy the government need money....our money. They basically had two ways to get our money. First, our taxes could have been immediately increased which was not politically feasible at the time. Second, they could "borrow money" in the form of a stimulus package, which was the most politically feasible. The problem is that this "borrowed money" will have to be paid back(plus interest) and the only way to do that is increase taxes.
Yes, the public has been hoodwinked. When we supported a stimulus package we basically supported huge tax increases in the near future to pay for both the "borrowed money" as well as the interest on the borrowed money. All that remains now is for the government to use enough crisis scare tactics to try and get support for tax increases and more borrowing. Scare tactics like the world will end as we know it if we don't pass a Cap and Trade bill. Scare tactics like the United States will go bankrupt if we don't increase taxes in order to lower our huge debt.
We are like lambs being led to the slaughter. It's time for the public to wake up and demand that government(both parties) change it's ways so that individuals and families are not the ones left bankrupt in the end.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU, WHY are some so hard press to really know the truth, YES IT IS COMING FROM TAX INCREASES.
This President is just good at his FANCY WORDS, for making something sound so apprealing, I have never bought into his ACT.
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU, WHY are some so hard press to really know the truth, YES IT IS COMING FROM TAX INCREASES.
This President is just good at his FANCY WORDS, for making something sound so apprealing, I have never bought into his ACT.
What tax increases? Everyone who makes less than $250k a year just got the biggest tax cut in history with the stimulus bill.
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:36 PM
 
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THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU, WHY are some so hard press to really know the truth, YES IT IS COMING FROM TAX INCREASES.
This President is just good at his FANCY WORDS, for making something sound so apprealing, I have never bought into his ACT.
Its not just the President, every politician in power has hoodwinked the American Tax payer. And not just with the 'stimulous'.

Wayne Allyn Root's Blog - (http://www.rootforamerica.com/blog/index.php?entry=entry - broken link)

The Greatest Taxpayer Rip-Off in U.S. History.

By Wayne Allyn Root, Author
The Conscience of a Libertarian: Empowering the Citizen Revolution with God, Guns, Gambling & Tax Cuts
My understanding of human nature, negotiating, and deal making skills have taken me from being an S.O.B. (son of a butcher) to a successful small businessman and Vice Presidential nominee of America's Third Party. For months I've predicted on TV and radio appearances exactly how universal healthcare would be proposed, debated, negotiated and passed- against the wishes of the American people.

As I've predicted, here is how Obama and his minions are pulling off the greatest bait and switch, taxpayer rip-off in American political history. They started by asking for something so big, so absurd, so unrealistic that it set the tone for the entire negotiation knowing it was nothing more than a “bait and switch”. Then, after much arguing and debating that they would never do the deal without that absurd demand, they “compromise” and accept something smaller, but still totally absurd. Everyone smiles, shakes hands, pats each other on the back and feels they've walked away a winner. But only one party won big, and the other lost big. They just don't realize it, all because of the art of negotiation and the use of “bait and switch.” The American taxpayer is the big loser in this deal.
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:36 PM
 
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THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU, WHY are some so hard press to really know the truth, YES IT IS COMING FROM TAX INCREASES.
This President is just good at his FANCY WORDS, for making something sound so apprealing, I have never bought into his ACT
.
An ACT....is all it ever was.
An ACT.....of pure deception, yet so transparent.
And seen by many.......for a very long time.
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:38 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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We, the public, have been hoodwinked by the stimulus packages. We were told and it his been sold that the stimulus packages were necessary to bailout financial institutions and create jobs. We were told that the sky was falling and if we didn't support the stimulus packages then disaster would occur. The bottom line is that a stimulus package is not a stimulus package but rather a trojan horse disguising what it really is, which is a tax increase.
Bad housing and lending regulatory policy since the 1970s is a major culprit that has brought the United States to it's knees financially. Both major political parties contributed to this. In order to make up for the disastrous results of this bad policy the government need money....our money. They basically had two ways to get our money. First, our taxes could have been immediately increased which was not politically feasible at the time. Second, they could "borrow money" in the form of a stimulus package, which was the most politically feasible. The problem is that this "borrowed money" will have to be paid back(plus interest) and the only way to do that is increase taxes.
Yes, the public has been hoodwinked. When we supported a stimulus package we basically supported huge tax increases in the near future to pay for both the "borrowed money" as well as the interest on the borrowed money. All that remains now is for the government to use enough crisis scare tactics to try and get support for tax increases and more borrowing. Scare tactics like the world will end as we know it if we don't pass a Cap and Trade bill. Scare tactics like the United States will go bankrupt if we don't increase taxes in order to lower our huge debt.
We are like lambs being led to the slaughter. It's time for the public to wake up and demand that government(both parties) change it's ways so that individuals and families are not the ones left bankrupt in the end.
Speak for yourself I didnt support any of the bailouts or big spending. How anyone didnt know it was going to lead to higher taxes is beyond me

If you are waking up I am glad though
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:40 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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Its not just the President, every politician in power has hoodwinked the American Tax payer. And not just with the 'stimulous'.

Wayne Allyn Root's Blog - (http://www.rootforamerica.com/blog/index.php?entry=entry - broken link)

The Greatest Taxpayer Rip-Off in U.S. History.

By Wayne Allyn Root, Author
The Conscience of a Libertarian: Empowering the Citizen Revolution with God, Guns, Gambling & Tax Cuts
My understanding of human nature, negotiating, and deal making skills have taken me from being an S.O.B. (son of a butcher) to a successful small businessman and Vice Presidential nominee of America's Third Party. For months I've predicted on TV and radio appearances exactly how universal healthcare would be proposed, debated, negotiated and passed- against the wishes of the American people.

As I've predicted, here is how Obama and his minions are pulling off the greatest bait and switch, taxpayer rip-off in American political history. They started by asking for something so big, so absurd, so unrealistic that it set the tone for the entire negotiation knowing it was nothing more than a “bait and switch”. Then, after much arguing and debating that they would never do the deal without that absurd demand, they “compromise” and accept something smaller, but still totally absurd. Everyone smiles, shakes hands, pats each other on the back and feels they've walked away a winner. But only one party won big, and the other lost big. They just don't realize it, all because of the art of negotiation and the use of “bait and switch.” The American taxpayer is the big loser in this deal.
Yep everyone in DC is to blame but I think some are taking it a bit more personal from Obama because some really bought into his change you can believe in. Now they are seeing it was just a gimmick to get elected
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Old 12-09-2009, 02:15 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Yep everyone in DC is to blame but I think some are taking it a bit more personal from Obama because some really bought into his change you can believe in. Now they are seeing it was just a gimmick to get elected
point well take, yes it is because of the fact that word was used over and over and over CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE.
Other administrations are and were at fault also, i feel it is because most THOUGHT THAT CHANGE WAS GOING TO BE JUST THAT A DIFFERENT CHANGE, and it has not happened.
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