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Old 12-12-2009, 01:06 PM
 
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You deniers are so silly.

Honestly, a world-wide conspiracy of scientists? Really? But polluting industries with billions of dollars to spend on PR and lobbying - that's outragous. Couldn't happen.

I really wish you could see how funny you look.

I really wish the left winger El Gordo sheep see how foolish they look. What say you about the prooof that guages to measure temperature was placed by sources that generated heat? Surely you would not suggest we trust data derived from that monumental con game do you?
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Old 12-12-2009, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Even the students at PSU know Mann is a fraud;

PSU panel to review all 'Climategate' e-mails - The Daily Collegian Online

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/photos/2009/12/09/5_210x148.jpg (broken link)

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Tagged in yellow chalk on a wall outside of the Hammond Building, the scrawled words question the reputation of one Penn State professor as a university inquiry into his research ethics continues.

"Climategate: Don't hide the decline," the wall reads.
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Old 12-12-2009, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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What wonderful, totally empty posts by the enviro crowd.

It's the usual, name calling without any facts of substance.

When you think of this issue, think of Al Gore and his little shack in the forest...You know, the house that uses more energy than 5 or 6 homes of families that the enviro crowd would call deniers.

Face the facts - The people that are "saving the earth" are mostly about "making a buck" while doing it...To the point that their cash-cow has to be protected at all costs...Even the truth.

They got exposed for what they are...Phonies.

In spite of the labeling, almost all people recognize that changes should be made...Just not the radical changes, in radical time, at radical costs.

And the "normal" among us realize that the environment has been changing since the beginning of time here on earth, and will continue to change no matter what we do. Much of it is natural occurrence - the continuous changing of our planet earth.

My, my...how fragile and insecure are some of the responses here (like always when someones beliefs are so extreme and so insecure about them).
The whole carbon offset scam is just beyond belief. You can still supposed pollute, but you're gonna pay for it and the Co2 will magically disappear under loads of cash.

I love it when these fanatics say 'We need to prevent the Earth's temperature from rising more than 2 degrees in the next 100 years". Think about that. Man is going to alter the natural temperature of the Earth.

Do they realize how utterly moronic and ridiculous that is?
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Old 12-12-2009, 01:51 PM
 
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Yeah, but all of them have about as much credibility as you do.

This is another right-wing manufactured hissy fit. And nothing will come of it.

It is amazing that people can be so blind, or stupid, or both. READ THE SCIENCE! The fossil data and the empiric data shows this is all BS. Wake up!
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Old 12-12-2009, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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I really wish the left winger El Gordo sheep see how foolish they look. What say you about the prooof that guages to measure temperature was placed by sources that generated heat? Surely you would not suggest we trust data derived from that monumental con game do you?
I surely think you have no idea what you are talking about. Scientists use all kinds of data to make a more accurate record of temperature - not just thermometers. And where recording stations are near heat sources (e.g., areas with pavement) they adjust the results.

Please, we need smarter conservatives.
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Old 12-12-2009, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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Don't you mean 'Even one student at PSU thinks ..."

But that would mean that you think about what you write, and we know your position there.
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Old 12-12-2009, 03:01 PM
 
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I surely think you have no idea what you are talking about. Scientists use all kinds of data to make a more accurate record of temperature - not just thermometers. And where recording stations are near heat sources (e.g., areas with pavement) they adjust the results.

Please, we need smarter conservatives.
Pay them no mind. They do not read the science of why and how the damage is happening. They just post links that deny that man has caused the acceleration of the problem.
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Old 12-12-2009, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Sorry, but there are hundreds of other articles that say otherwise.

Where did all the warming go? - Washington Times
RealClearPolitics - The Climate-Change Travesty
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/c...al-issues.html
"Science" responds to Climategate - Clive Crook
Climate-Gate Heats Up - CBS News Video
Petr Chylek: Open Letter to the Climate Research Community (http://www.thegwpf.org/opinion-pros-a-cons/218-petr-chylek-open-letter-to-the-climate-research-community.html - broken link)
Stolen E-Mails Raise Questions On Climate Research : NPR
Met Office to re-examine 160 years of climate data - Times Online
washingtonpost.com
BBC News - Newsnight - CRU's programming 'below commercial standards'
Parliamentary Speaker: Climate debate derailed? - Politiken.dk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgIEQ...layer_embedded
The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : "Climate Gate" Development: CEI Files Notice of Intent to Sue NASA
RealClearPolitics - Science is on the Credibility Bubble
BBC News - Climate e-mail hack 'will impact on Copenhagen summit'
After 'Climategate,' Global Warming Doubt on Rise - COP15: Climate-Change Conference - TIME
Climategate: it's all unravelling now – Telegraph Blogs
Investors.com - The CRU's Criminal Conspiracy
Climategate: Dissent on ice - The Boston Globe
Australia's Parliament defeats global warming bill - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091202/ap_on_re_as/climate_australia - broken link)
The Scientists Involved in Deliberately Deceiving the World on Climate
Daily Express | UK News :: Climate change 'fraud'
Lord Monckton’s summary of Climategate and its issues « Watts Up With That?
Fallout Over "ClimateGate" Data Leak Grows - Taking Liberties - CBS News
Cringing Over Climategate - Forbes.com
Daily Express | UK News :: Climate change 'fraud'
The Scientists Involved in Deliberately Deceiving the World on Climate
FOXNews.com - Global Warming Scandal Makes Scientific Progress More Difficult, Experts Say
Bret Stephens: Climategate: Follow the Money - WSJ.com
Richard S. Lindzen: The Climate Science Isn't Settled - WSJ.com
Investors.com - The CRU's Criminal Conspiracy
IPCC and the “Trick” « Climate Audit [Welcome to our new home!]
Watts Up With That?
Climate Depot
Climategate: the final nail in the coffin of 'Anthropogenic Global Warming'? – Telegraph Blogs
RealClearPolitics - ClimateGate: The Fix is In
RealClearPolitics - Search
The New York Times > Log In
'Botch after botch after botch' | Lorrie Goldstein | Columnists | Comment | Toronto Sun
The Dog Ate Global Warming | Patrick J. Michaels | Cato Institute: Commentary
Hot Air » Blog Archive » Weird science: East Anglia CRU threw out their raw data
Climate change: this is the worst scientific scandal of our generation - Telegraph
Still Hiding the Decline « Climate Audit – mirror site [OBSOLETE!]
The great climate change science scandal - Times Online
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/8aefbf52-d9e...nclick_check=1

Just a fraction of the stories that are out there claiming just the opposite.

AP has been thoroughly invested for years in moving along the AGW agenda. What would you expect from their final "conclusion"?

They were fairly hard on them besides the relevant point.

aww, good ol' times. Sanrene posting again some stuff she didn't read and making a fool out of herself. Finally, everything back to normal here. Gotta love it.
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Old 12-12-2009, 04:14 PM
 
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aww, good ol' times. Sanrene posting again some stuff she didn't read and making a fool out of herself. Finally, everything back to normal here. Gotta love it.
By all means, please point out your accusation and explain it.

Honestly, I would like to hear the premise of your claim.
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Old 12-12-2009, 05:00 PM
 
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The whole carbon offset scam is just beyond belief. You can still supposed pollute, but you're gonna pay for it and the Co2 will magically disappear under loads of cash.

I love it when these fanatics say 'We need to prevent the Earth's temperature from rising more than 2 degrees in the next 100 years". Think about that. Man is going to alter the natural temperature of the Earth.

Do they realize how utterly moronic and ridiculous that is?
The Hole in the Ozone Layer

We all remember the enormous hole in the ozone layer that needed to be fixed before ending life as we knew it. In the daily craze of emissions, record temperatures and polar bears, it has completely disappeared from the media spotlight. The massive hole remains but since 1987 the ozone killing chemicals have been phasing out. A full recovery of the protective ozone layer is expected between 2060 and 2075. As this happens the adverse health risks posed by UV rays will be reduced.

Ozone Layer En Route to Recovery

It's an environmental and public health victory in the making: The stratosphere's ozone layer, which protects us from much of the sun's harmful ultraviolet radiation, is on the road to recovery after a global phase out of ozone-depleting chemicals. Twenty years ago, Sept. 16, 1987, some 24 nations signed the Montreal Protocol, which called for a gradual phase out of the ozone-killing chemicals (mostly chlorofluorocarbons).

Well, we caused this and by enforcing regulations, we are fixing it. According to your skewed logic, we couldn't have caused this either, right?

In answer to your question...

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Yes, we realize how utterly moronic and ridiculous your post is.
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