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Old 12-22-2009, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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The problem with GM is when they had cutting edge technology that would have put them at the top of the world in electric cars, they sold the battery patent to Chevron! This is Capitalism at its finest and GM deserves to reap what the sowed by bad business decisions.


Revenge of the EV1: crushing EV1 crushed GM


Who Killed the Electric Car: GM and Chevron
People don't want electric cars and manufacturers aren't making money on them.
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Old 12-22-2009, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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More childish hyperbole, sourced with another youtube video. Is anybody surprised?
Not really, no.
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:20 PM
 
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Lets face it everyone, Detroit didnt die due to unions, or management, it died because the politicians couldnt convince other industries that it was a place companies would want to do business ..
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Why would anyone think the auto companies wanted new industries moving in to compete for employees. The unions and the industry were two sides of the same failed oligipoly.
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Old 12-22-2009, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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Detroit was based around the car industry, they made ****ty cars, people realized, stop buying them, and behold, the city died. It really is that simple.
and that IS capitalism in its purest.
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:34 PM
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hhJ_...layer_embedded

Truly incomprehensible and devastating to behold.

Crowder takes you through example after example where liberal policies have brought ruin.

"Perfect laboratory for the Left's principles".
Perhaps you could do a critique of the Peoples Republic of China and the results of the leaderships policies in that country.
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:52 PM
 
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Why would anyone think the auto companies wanted new industries moving in to compete for employees. The unions and the industry were two sides of the same failed oligipoly.
What? How can the auto company stop private businesses from moving into a neighborhood, especially with vacant space on every corner?

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Old 12-22-2009, 04:19 PM
 
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1. Ford Explorer 4WD
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8. Chevrolet C1500 Pickup 2WD
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1. Toyota Corolla
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8. Honda Accord
9. Honda Fit
10. Ford Escape FWD
Sincerely yours, Cash-For-Clunkers

One thing positive is people have jobs at those manufacturers here in the US. We will see for how long all that last.
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Old 12-22-2009, 07:55 PM
 
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Wasn't it 40 years of liberalism, government interference and socialism that finally brought the "industry" down?
Not at all. In fact, one of the biggest realizations was how much government cow-towed to the demands of the auto industry, never forcing them to up their mileage and then helping to create the situation they're in today.

The industry grew gluttonous and stagnant without competition until the 80s. They were soaring in the 90s when the U.S. was prosperous, and only collapsed recently because gas prices suddenly shot up and nobody wanted big cars and then, just as at least Ford restructured and was ready to make profit, the economy collapsed.

So, to answer your question... no.
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Old 12-22-2009, 07:59 PM
 
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The video should have contrasted the city with it's overwhelmingly Republican suburbs. My wife grew up in Bloomfield Hills which is one of the richest communities in America. The residents of all these well-to-do suburbs ringing Detroit are forced by the Democrats in control to pay more taxes so that inner city schools can graduate 25% of their student body.
Could you please cite where suburbs are taxed to pay for city schools? You may be right, but in my experience the suburbs drew a line and refused to do anything for the city - much less pay their taxes. Maybe it's changed, but suburban Detroit has some of the best school districts and private schools in the country because their taxes stay home.

And, to compare a bunch of rich people eager to protect their money to impoverished people desperate for a leg up is a little unfair.

Might as well compare thriving, highly educated liberal towns bursting with innovative industry like Ann Arbor, Austin, or Madison to impoverished rural conservative towns in perpetual poverty.

Both comparisons are absurd since they are simply different animals.
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