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Old 12-22-2009, 08:03 PM
 
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Not at all. In fact, one of the biggest realizations was how much government cow-towed to the demands of the auto industry, never forcing them to up their mileage and then helping to create the situation they're in today.

The industry grew gluttonous and stagnant without competition until the 80s. They were soaring in the 90s when the U.S. was prosperous, and only collapsed recently because gas prices suddenly shot up and nobody wanted big cars and then, just as at least Ford restructured and was ready to make profit, the economy collapsed.

So, to answer your question... no.
Obviously you didn't pay any attention to the best selling cars of 2007, 2008 and 2009.
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Old 12-22-2009, 08:05 PM
 
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Could you please cite where suburbs are taxed to pay for city schools? You may be right, but in my experience the suburbs drew a line and refused to do anything for the city - much less pay their taxes. Maybe it's changed, but suburban Detroit has some of the best school districts and private schools in the country because their taxes stay home.

And, to compare a bunch of rich people eager to protect their money to impoverished people desperate for a leg up is a little unfair.

Might as well compare thriving, highly educated liberal towns bursting with innovative industry like Ann Arbor, Austin, or Madison to impoverished rural conservative towns in perpetual poverty.

Both comparisons are absurd since they are simply different animals.
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Fourteen urban school districts have on-time graduation rates lower than 50%; they include Detroit, Baltimore, New York, Milwaukee, Cleveland, Los Angeles, Miami, Dallas, Denver and Houston.
USATODAY.com - Big-city schools struggle with graduation rates
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Old 12-22-2009, 08:16 PM
 
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What liberal policies are you referring to?
labor unions for starters.

socialist labor unions and their incompetence brought detroit down. lack of economic planning and diversifying only made things worse.

detroit is a classic example of why it is important to diversify your economy and not let one company have too much of a stranglehold.

This is why factory towns and regions (AKA ohio, indiana, michigan) always suffer when the economy dips. Lots of factories employing thousands upon thousands of workers all in one location. too vulnerable.

The key to low unemployment and low crime is diversifying the economy, eliminating labor unions, and creating a business friendly free market economy.

I think Seattle could very well be the next detroit if its problems arent corrected and the corrupt liberal politicians arent replaced soon. Boeing's recent opening of a factory in south carolina is a sign that the local unions have Boeing by the balls. Boeing is saying "scr3w this" and moving to a lower tax, anti union state. Good for them.
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Old 12-22-2009, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The problem with GM is when they had cutting edge technology that would have put them at the top of the world in electric cars, they sold the battery patent to Chevron! This is Capitalism at its finest and GM deserves to reap what the sowed by bad business decisions.


Revenge of the EV1: crushing EV1 crushed GM


Who Killed the Electric Car: GM and Chevron
Capitalism only works if people want to buy the product, and average people do not want to shell out big bucks for a short range car as their main vehicle.
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Old 12-22-2009, 08:21 PM
 
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Got it. Detroit has 28% unemployment because of liberals.

So, Sanrene... do YOU drive an American made automobile?
I agree with Sanrene, and YES, I DRIVE AN AMERICAN MADE AUTOMOBILE. I own 3 of them, in fact.

Your point being?
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Old 12-22-2009, 08:24 PM
 
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I agree with Sanrene, and YES, I DRIVE AN AMERICAN MADE AUTOMOBILE. I own 3 of them, in fact.

Your point being?
You agree that Detroit's demise is because of 40 years of liberal government.

Good for you.

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Old 12-22-2009, 08:39 PM
 
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How do you libs explain California nearing bankruptcy as their tax and spend policies continue unabated as the PRODUCERS flee the state in droves for Arizona and Texas?? How about NYC where the taxes have NEVER been so high?? How is the rest of Michigan holding up?? How about New Jersey (remember Jersey..they just voted in a Republican Governor because they had it with being beat over the head by the Democrats).......unions, capitalism, blah, blah, blah....watch that video closely because that may be coming to a city near you real soon. Don't worry the Government can spend trillions, and trillions, and trillions, and trillions, and gazillions of our dollars...don't worry my friends there are no repercussions!!!!!!!! Hee Hee Hee!!!! Wake up America before it is too damn late.....
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Old 12-22-2009, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Detroit schools get higher than the national average for pupils - $11,000/pupil..... On the level with a good private school. The graduation rate is 25%.
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Old 12-22-2009, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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How do you libs explain California nearing bankruptcy as their tax and spend policies continue unabated as the PRODUCERS flee the state in droves for Arizona and Texas?? How about NYC where the taxes have NEVER been so high?? How is the rest of Michigan holding up?? How about New Jersey (remember Jersey..they just voted in a Republican Governor because they had it with being beat over the head by the Democrats).......unions, capitalism, blah, blah, blah....watch that video closely because that may be coming to a city near you real soon. Don't worry the Government can spend trillions, and trillions, and trillions, and trillions, and gazillions of our dollars...don't worry my friends there are no repercussions!!!!!!!! Hee Hee Hee!!!! Wake up America before it is too damn late.....
Excellent questions, but I doubt you will hear any answers.

Those in your list are perfect examples of what you get when dems/libs are in charge.
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:04 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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So your claiming that Republicans take their lines of credit to blue states, because, without lines of credits, you dont have capitalism
Believe it or not Ripley ... many Republicans live in Blue states too!

However, Red states tend to populated with lower income earners, so they aren't going to spend anywhere near the amount spent in Blue states.
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