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Old 12-22-2009, 09:23 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Nice try but some of the best colleges in the US are also in the south and other red states. What you have offered is no excuse for states spending more then they take in from their citizens.

Maybe the Blue states need to adjust some of their wages of all their intellectual types so they don't go broke. It's not very intellectual to go broke and rely on the federal govt.

Are you saying there are better schools in Michigan then Texas ? I don't think so.
No ... I am saying that Blue states in general have a higher cost of living than Red states, and therefore will result in people having higher credit as well.

Take a look at this map:

Maps of the 2008 US Presidential Election | Political Maps

Notice the Blue states:
California
New York
All New England states
Florida
Hawaii

And compare to the Red states:
The farm belt
The Southern States
Alaska

On average, which states do you think will have the highest cost of living? Blue or Red?
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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On average, which states do you think will have the highest cost of living? Blue or Red?
What does that have to do with liberal policies that are bankrupting those states and driving away business and individuals?
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:52 PM
 
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This is a tough one: states with liberal policies vs. those states' rights to have those policies without federal intervention (and, notice that it's rarely a conservative federal government that tells the state governments that they cannot implement liberal policies within their own borders).
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Old 12-23-2009, 12:12 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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labor unions for starters.

socialist labor unions and their incompetence brought detroit down. lack of economic planning and diversifying only made things worse.

detroit is a classic example of why it is important to diversify your economy and not let one company have too much of a stranglehold.
Diversify like the suburbs of Grand Rapids, MI, did?---a Republican run area that has a closed up GM factory and a closed up Steelcase office furniture plant. That diversification really worked well for the area. Steelcase, by the way, was huge and non-unionized.

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Old 12-23-2009, 10:26 AM
 
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I don't get why you posted that. I asked for evidence that the wealthy Detroit suburbs pay a tax to support the city schools.

I'm well aware of low graduation rates and failing schools in many inner cities.
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Old 12-23-2009, 10:48 AM
 
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Nice try but some of the best colleges in the US are also in the south and other red states. What you have offered is no excuse for states spending more then they take in from their citizens.

Maybe the Blue states need to adjust some of their wages of all their intellectual types so they don't go broke. It's not very intellectual to go broke and rely on the federal govt.

Are you saying there are better schools in Michigan then Texas ? I don't think so.
Just for the record, most blue states contritute more to federal taxes than they get in return. Most red states get significantly more in federal resources than they pay in to the system.

I also don't understand why people focus on Detroit for liberal policies, when you also have some of the most thriving areas in the country that are guided by liberalism: Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, New York, Boston, Ann Arbor, Madison, Austin, etc...

I'm not saying either political ideology is the answer, but let's at least be honest when creating hit-job videos of this nature.
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Old 12-23-2009, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Just for the record, most blue states contritute more to federal taxes than they get in return. Most red states get significantly more in federal resources than they pay in to the system.
What record would that be?
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:04 PM
 
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What does that have to do with liberal policies that are bankrupting those states and driving away business and individuals?

Um, Sanrene, what does that have to do with the policies of our previous administration that spent tens of millions a day in the middle east? Some of which undoubtedly found its way to the Taliban and other people we are fighting?. In the long term, we are paying for the seeds of our own demise. It's the craziest thing I've seen--my country investing money to people that eventually attack us.
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Old 12-24-2009, 01:09 PM
 
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dEt-RIOT....

Someone said it best......

"GM the Business could not support GM the welfare state...."
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Old 12-24-2009, 01:26 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I also don't understand why people focus on Detroit for liberal policies, when you also have some of the most thriving areas in the country that are guided by liberalism: Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, New York, Boston, Ann Arbor, Madison, Austin, etc...

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When the cherries are ripe you can count on the right to be pickin'
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