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Yapster, long time no see, "state controlled media outlets" surely you jest!
I wish I did jest.
Nobody reports the news anymore, they just parrot the White House press conferences. So while nobody is breaking into the homes of news reporters in the middle of the night, the state IS controlling the mass media by using their unwillingness to do "investigative reporting".
Doesn't it seem odd that gay marriage is somehow more important to the American public than an autism rate of 1 in 150? 1 in 95 in New Jersey in fact.
Is two guys sharing a life together more of a problem than that?
How many of you knew that April 2007 was "National Autism Awareness" month? I bet more people know Mitt Romney's feeling on gay marriage, a man who has absolutely no shot at the presidency, than do Autism Awareness month.
Thank your govt, and media for that one.
Then comes all the other much more important issues out there, that never make the news, or the floor, when compared to some other questionable things.
Yes, our mass media is state controlled, just not like it is in Russia.
Chevez is no friend of the US. He should use this money to rebuild the road from Caracas to the airport - now that would be progress. Or rebuild homes that were destroyed by the floods years ago. Or better yet, since he is a man of the people, start really building housing for the poor so that they don't have to live in cardboard shacks anymore.
This man is a mutli millionaire many times over so, like Castro, sure, its easy to be a communist when it's in your interest.
Have you been to Venezuela, or are you basing your opinions on information obtained through the news media, or from others who obtained their information second hand?
Nobody reports the news anymore, they just parrot the White House press conferences. So while nobody is breaking into the homes of news reporters in the middle of the night, the state IS controlling the mass media by using their unwillingness to do "investigative reporting".
Doesn't it seem odd that gay marriage is somehow more important to the American public than an autism rate of 1 in 150? 1 in 95 in New Jersey in fact.
Is two guys sharing a life together more of a problem than that?
How many of you knew that April 2007 was "National Autism Awareness" month? I bet more people know Mitt Romney's feeling on gay marriage, a man who has absolutely no shot at the presidency, than do Autism Awareness month.
Thank your govt, and media for that one.
Then comes all the other much more important issues out there, that never make the news, or the floor, when compared to some other questionable things.
Yes, our mass media is state controlled, just not like it is in Russia.
~TT
Not sure of the connection but,
I would love nothing more than to not ever hear about gay marriage again!! besides everytime it comes up here I get the boot!
Yes, some changes here and for me personally as well. Trying to find a good home here in Maine. Not easy, but perhaps the stars will shine on me.
Sad about MoMark, but good on CD for their thoughtful tribute.
And a good hand of applause for getting cil on board.
As for Chavez, well, he talks loud, and occasionally louder than Bush, that I know. But as for his true intentions it is difficult to assess as he often speaks defensively and with high anti-US rhetoric--in response to rather than self initiated blather as he gets stung rather badly in the States by the government and by the press. Latin and South American politics are not easy to judge or weigh in the best of times.
And our international fans diminish as the US policies seem to not stand up to their scrutiny.
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Thanks, glad to pop in.
I've been busy working on a health related site project with some folks. Just about every minute of my "after-work" time has been taken up with it.
I have been doing "fly-bys" though. The topics are getting better, religion has been given it's own home, lots of good things happening here.
...also, as they say "big-ups" to the admin for the tribute to MoMark. Well done.
As for Chavez, well he's a tough one. I'd love to know more about him and his country. If you notice, everybody but the UK and Israel seems to be some sort of a "problem" to us these days. Sometimes (yes you Mr. Bush) have to look in the mirror and say "Maybe it's not the rest of the world, maybe it's just me after all".
Chevez is no friend of the US. He should use this money to rebuild the road from Caracas to the airport - now that would be progress. Or rebuild homes that were destroyed by the floods years ago. Or better yet, since he is a man of the people, start really building housing for the poor so that they don't have to live in cardboard shacks anymore.
This man is a mutli millionaire many times over so, like Castro, sure, its easy to be a communist when it's in your interest.
He actually has contracted several european architecture firms to build modern (green) housing for the poor in Caracas and other cities. They look pretty cool too.
But I admit, I don't know much info on Chavez other than what this government is saying, and like Yap (welcome back bro) I'm not too sure how accurate that is. I need to research a little more.
Yapster, long time no see, "state controlled media outlets" surely you jest!
Surely it wouldn't be the first time the U.S. government has lied about a Latin American politician/movement/government in order to justify some amount of political upheaval.
1970. Salvador Allende, democratically elected President, was forcibly overthrown by the CIA and he later committed suicide. Such action was necessary because the CIA funded his opponent's campaign and he still lost. Manuel Noreiga, a former CIA employee, was the militant dictator of Panama, despite never being elected. The U.S. had no longer use for him, so he was overthrown in the U.S. invasion of Panama. He's since been in a Miami prison. Don't forget all of the "political realignment" and "Dirty War" tactics used against any dissidents or leftists, usually sponsored to some degree by the United States or CIA.
Am I out in left field, or is it possible the U.S. government has a DIFFERENT bone to pick with Mr. Chavez, perhaps something U.S. citizens know nothing about?
If the truth were told about relations between the US and its southern neighbours, we'd all gasp!
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Surely it wouldn't be the first time the U.S. government has lied about a Latin American politician/movement/government in order to justify some amount of political upheaval.
1970. Salvador Allende, democratically elected President, was forcibly overthrown by the CIA and he later committed suicide. Such action was necessary because the CIA funded his opponent's campaign and he still lost. Manuel Noreiga, a former CIA employee, was the militant dictator of Panama, despite never being elected. The U.S. had no longer use for him, so he was overthrown in the U.S. invasion of Panama. He's since been in a Miami prison. Don't forget all of the "political realignment" and "Dirty War" tactics used against any dissidents or leftists, usually sponsored to some degree by the United States or CIA.
Am I out in left field, or is it possible the U.S. government has a DIFFERENT bone to pick with Mr. Chavez, perhaps something U.S. citizens know nothing about?
Have you been to Venezuela, or are you basing your opinions on information obtained through the news media, or from others who obtained their information second hand?
~T
My husband is Venezuelan, I have visited a number of times, etc. I am not speaking from media hype or the like. My knowledge is first hand and other reliable means.
I think we all realize that Glover's reason for accepting the money was two-fold; to make a movie, and to "stick it to our President."
Can't you see this? Or is it just than you don't want to admit it?
I certainly see it. I just don't think that qualifies him as a traitor. Given our current President, it might even qualify him as a patriot.
In fact, it is the views that you are expressing (Don't criticize our President!) that borders on the treasonous.
"The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." (Teddy Roosevelt, "Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star", 149; May 7, 1918)
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