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Old 12-31-2009, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Nah, you don't want to go coast-coast at first - you're not competing well with long-distance flights. Do the coastal corridors and the urban centers in Florida, Texas etc. first. Then strike out across the nation. Anchor the stations in airports and downtowns. (Yes, I played a lot of RailRoad Tycoon.)

Ever been to Frankfurt (am Main)? Airport, high-speed trains, regional trains and city subway in one spot, it just works.
Sure the logistics of laying out the track are debatable.

But LA to Vegas for our first high speed train ?

A previous poster noted that developing countries are doing just that..developing. We keep sitting on our butts and continue to play the oil/car/truck game we are going to be left in the dust.
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Old 12-31-2009, 02:43 PM
 
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A previous poster noted that developing countries are doing just that..developing. We keep sitting on our butts and continue to play the oil/car/truck game we are going to be left in the dust.
It's a shame , once you really think about it. TaxPayer money (along with the lives of many children from working families) is fighting the war in Iraq which helped the fossil fuel companies make record profits.

Our (taxpayers and working and middle income citizens) reward: price gouging at the pump. All this screaming, ranting and crying about socialism but not one of these "defenders of liberty" will comment on CORPORATE SOCIALISM which is the only socialism so far that I've seen in practice.

This guy speaks about a plan that could help America end its addiction to fossil fuel, become a global leader (if you followed Copenhagen you'd know many nations were begging the US to take the control and show some leadership which our leaders failed to do) in green technology; thus reducing pollution, bring back manufacturing using clean technology and solve our jobs crisis and re-instill Americans with pride and confidence that comes from PRODUCING things.

Our leaders can magically pull money out of thin air like Hilary's reckless offer of throwing away hundreds of millions of dollars to 3rd world nations but complain its just too expensive to seriously invest in alternative energy technologies.

We need leadership. Not people ideological wing nuts or people that want to have parties and serve tea or Billy Clinton 3.0.

We need an FDR 2.0 to tame the wild beast that is corporate America, domesticate it and make it serve the public interest.

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Old 12-31-2009, 03:53 PM
 
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I'd love to have a similar high speed train system here in the US. However, citing the "cheap", $14 billion price tag is a bit disingenuous seeing as how the labor force in China is barely a step up from slave labor.
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Old 12-31-2009, 04:15 PM
 
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Awesome. America should have been and still doing the same thing.
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Old 12-31-2009, 04:37 PM
 
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Awesome. America should have been and still doing the same thing.
No. We need more lawyers and financial wiz-kids. Screw the engineers, doctors, scientists, etc.
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Old 12-31-2009, 05:08 PM
 
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No. We need more lawyers and financial wiz-kids. Screw the engineers, doctors, scientists, etc.
Please do not do that. Math and science and engineering and physics and chemistry and biology and ... and... you get the picture. That is what we need to be focusing on. All those maths and sciences, those things solve problems.
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Old 12-31-2009, 05:21 PM
 
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I'd love to have a similar high speed train system here in the US. However, citing the "cheap", $14 billion price tag is a bit disingenuous seeing as how the labor force in China is barely a step up from slave labor.
The Chinese did not do it by themselves but teamed up with other non-Chinese companies to do this.

There had to be some educated brains to design this..not your $1.00 per day person.

Even if the cost were to double in the US to $28 billion, it's still less than the hundreds of billions we handed to banks and pork projects.

That would be an investment in the future..not a handout that disappears within a year.
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Old 12-31-2009, 06:07 PM
 
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The Chinese did not do it by themselves but teamed up with other non-Chinese companies to do this.

There had to be some educated brains to design this..not your $1.00 per day person.

Even if the cost were to double in the US to $28 billion, it's still less than the hundreds of billions we handed to banks and pork projects.

That would be an investment in the future..not a handout that disappears within a year.
And you think it could be done for that here ?

You can read the link to see how much it cost just to build light rail. And It only runs at around 30 MPH.

"All together, the planned corridors will add 30.2 miles of light rail to the city."

"estimated last year that the lines will cost a total of $2.6 billion to build,"

That about 7.8 billion dollars for 90.6 miles..

So for 31.2 billion dollars you could go 362.4 miles...

On light rail...I'd bet high speed rail will cost more...

Now figure that for going from Dallas to LA.

The Transport Politic » Houston Readies Four Light Rail Lines by 2012
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Old 12-31-2009, 06:24 PM
 
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Looks like they built 664 miles for 19 billion..

"the 1,068 kilometers (664 miles)"

China Unveils the World’s Fastest Super High-Speed Train
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Old 12-31-2009, 06:26 PM
 
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But I'd like to ride on it when it's finished...

I rode on one in Japan years ago...
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