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Old 01-08-2010, 08:36 PM
 
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Due to tremendous pressure from the Left, the ACLU that constantly, continuously railed on the Bush Admin for keeping these guys at Gitmo indefinitely......remember?
What the Mr. Bring it On, "The Deciderâ„¢" and his Darth Vader partner couldn't take a little heat from the ACLU??
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Old 01-08-2010, 08:36 PM
 
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I should have said, Clinton launching an FBI investigation.
So, what you meant to say was "As much of a problem I had with Clinton launching an FBI investigation...", but somehow it came out instead as "As much of a problem I had with Clinton trying the Cole attackers through civilian courts...". That's what most would call missing the mark by quite a bit.

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The Cole trials didn't start until 2007, when a federal judge ruled it was the Sudanese gov't's fault.
That was a civil trial brought against the Government of Sudan by relatives of the victims.

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Then, as one one of Obama's first official acts of president, he dropped the charges against the USS Cole bomber.
No, as one of his first acts he ordered that Guantanamo Bay be closed and requested delays in all ongoing trials until the process could be reviewed and confirmed to be lawful. One judge refused the government's request. The administration then granted itself a delay by dropping the charges against al-Nashiri without prejudice, meaning that charges can be refiled by the government whenever it chooses to. al-Nashiri himself goes back to sitting in his cell.
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Old 01-08-2010, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Provide some evidence to this claim.

The battlefield is anywhere these guys plot and plan attacks. That's been clear for years. When you are dealing with terrorist cells in every nation of the world...yeah, it's a big battlefield.
Ex-Bush official: Many Gitmo detainees innocent - SFGate

Yes, thanks for talking yourself into a corner. Battlefield is everywhere, and therefore Reid was indeed arrested on the battlefield.
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Old 01-08-2010, 08:37 PM
 
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I'm betting each trial cost $10's of millions. Who's betting it's lower or more?
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Old 01-08-2010, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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What the Mr. Bring it On, "The Decider™" and his Darth Vader partner couldn't take a little heat from the ACLU??
The outcry from the terrorist-coddling Left can take credit for all those detainees that have been released then reengaged in the battle against the US.
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Old 01-08-2010, 08:38 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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You're talking about one sub-thread in this thread and I'm talking about another sub-thread within. Apples and oranges.
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Old 01-08-2010, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Florida
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So, what you meant to say was "As much of a problem I had with Clinton launching an FBI investigation...", but somehow it came out instead as "As much of a problem I had with Clinton trying the Cole attackers through civilian courts...". That's what most would call missing the mark by quite a bit.


That was a civil trial brought against the Government of Sudan by relatives of the victims.


No, as one of his first acts he ordered that Guantanamo Bay be closed and requested delays in all ongoing trials until the process could be reviewed and confirmed to be lawful. One judge refused the government's request. The administration then granted itself a delay by dropping the charges against al-Nashiri without prejudice, meaning that charges can be refiled by the government whenever it chooses to. al-Nashiri himself goes back to sitting in his cell.
How's that going for him?
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Old 01-08-2010, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Ex-Bush official: Many Gitmo detainees innocent - SFGate

Yes, thanks for talking yourself into a corner. Battlefield is everywhere, and therefore Reid was indeed arrested on the battlefield.
Other than the US. Didn't we make this clear yet?
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Old 01-08-2010, 08:41 PM
 
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Yea, well take heed, 50% of the terrorists released have either been killed or captured on the battlefield. If an idiot walks off a cliff and you watch him flap his arms before he hits the ground does that mean you think you might fly if you turned your palms up?
50%! Puleeeze!

Even by the wildly exaggerated claim issued by DoD there have only been 20%

"Early last year, the Pentagon reported that the rate of released detainees returning to militancy was 11%. In April, it was 14%. The latest figure was 20%, according to a U.S. official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the report had not been declassified and released."

Pentagon: More return to fight after leaving Gitmo - USATODAY.com

Now let's do a little math (and I'll give you the 20%). What is 20% of 540?
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Old 01-08-2010, 08:41 PM
 
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Other than the US. Didn't we make this clear yet?

The only thing made clear is that you change your argument as the thread evolves and you get painted into a corner.
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