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I haven't evaded anything. If you think terrorism doesn't affect you then that's all fine and dandy. It obviously does whether you like it or not. It's in our national security interest to seek out and find terrorist and state sponsors of terror. You should know this by now but you're one of those people that thinks if you turn your head just the right way you can avoid all that.
I only watched a little on it but could not see anymore becuase it was sick. However even though Many Iraqis first welcomed the invasion of the US lead coalition, now has
turned against them. I enclose an example of this:
Seriously, just link the article and a few sentences, I'll read it. It's just going to get deleted if it is found to violate TOS. Just an FYI.
And more to the point 1 person doesn't make a majority unless it's a dictator. Millions of people voted and their votes actually counted. That in and of itself speaks volumes about where the nation now has an ability to move forward towards.
The thing is Saddam was used by the U.S. for a long time, and he was dumb enough to do everything the U.S. ordered him to do, especially in the gulf war when he took permission to from the U.S. to attack Kuwait and the U.S. told him it was up to him, from that die the U.S. knew they would have a justifiable reason to invade Iraq sometime in the future, when Saddam started to realise that he was being used by the U.S. all these years, he was done by then anyways because he created a lot of enemies worldwide.
Yes, that is how he came to power originally, at a time where we didn't know the extent of how much of a tyrant Saddam was. Once we knew the extent Reagan and Bush continued to fund, him continued to arm him. I do find a bit interesting that the things Saddam was ultimately put to death for was for actions he committed against his own people during the 80's. This was when he as at his worst, this was when we funded and armed him the most.
You still haven't watched the video have you? It's from the National Geographic channel, not some right-wing youtuber. You wouldn't keep on bringing up these questions if you watched the video, they would have already been answered. It's is clearly stated that we did not know what he was actually doing to his own people. I understand the arguments on both sides of how we should not have helped or opposed and just stayed out of it all but that's not what happened and it didn't happen for over 40 years, it's not just a republican thing like you so adamantly keep referring to.
You still haven't watched the video have you? It's from the National Geographic channel, not some right-wing youtuber. You wouldn't keep on bringing up these questions if you watched the video, they would have already been answered. It's is clearly stated that we did not know what he was actually doing to his own people. I understand the arguments on both sides of how we should not have helped or opposed and just stayed out of it all but that's not what happened and it didn't happen for over 40 years, it's not just a republican thing like you so adamantly keep referring to.
We did know what he was doing to his own people during the 1980's, this was well known. The 88 attacks against the Kurds for one, wasn't exactly some secret, and we knew things that were going on prior to that as well.
We're still there for the same reason we will still be in Afghanistan and will probably soon be in Yemen and maybe even Iran.
Who's we? Are you going to be carrying a rifle?
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the real threat people like Saddam et al have on the rest of the world and their own people.
Saddam was a despot, but he wasn't a threat to "the rest of the world". His military was broken after 1991, his WMD programs crumbled during 1991-1998.
I was against the 2nd Iraq war, mostly because it was sold to the public on BS premises.
Even so, it could have come out all right, if the occupation hadn't been so utterly bungled. There was a window of perhaps one year, where reforms could have been made, and Bremer et al. bungled it completely.
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I haven't evaded anything.
You've absolutely evaded the question! The question has NOTHING to do with terror. The question is WHERE in the Constitution are we tasked with deposing dictators merely because of the living conditions they impose on their people. You're either evading the question or you realize the only correct answer is NO WHERE!
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If you think terrorism doesn't affect you then that's all fine and dandy. It obviously does whether you like it or not. It's in our national security interest to seek out and find terrorist and state sponsors of terror. You should know this by now but you're one of those people that thinks if you turn your head just the right way you can avoid all that.
And then what? Allow them to buy their way from guilt as was done with Libya?
The use of DU is illegal under all international agreements, treaties, and covenants and it is illegal even under U.S. military law regarding WMDs. But in defiance of those international treaties, and its own laws, the United States continues to use this destructive material in full knowledge that its use could result in the slow annihilation of all species, including our own.
Dude, I appreciate your feelings on the subject, but DU is not nuclear weaponry. Your source is leading you down the garden path.
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It is used in weapons because it is cheap, ignites easily and burns fiercely on hitting a solid target.
Wrong. It's not particular cheap, compared to other metals used as penetrators - steel and tungsten. And it's a devil to machine. But it's very hard and very heavy, making it a logical choice for kinetic energy weaponry.
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The half-life of the material is 4.5 billion years.
That's because its activity is so low. High half-life = low activity.
It's not a particularly pleasant material - heavy-metal toxicity and low-level alpha emitter - but we're talking about a weapon of war. Lead is a toxic heavy metal, for that matter. I am not crazy about DU used in penetrators, but let's not muddy the waters by calling it nuclear weapon, because it isn't one.
Dude, I appreciate your feelings on the subject, but DU is not nuclear weaponry. Your source is leading you down the garden path.
Wrong. It's not particular cheap, compared to other metals used as penetrators - steel and tungsten. And it's a devil to machine. But it's very hard and very heavy, making it a logical choice for kinetic energy weaponry.
That's because its activity is so low. High half-life = low activity.
It's not a particularly pleasant material - heavy-metal toxicity and low-level alpha emitter - but we're talking about a weapon of war. Lead is a toxic heavy metal, for that matter. I am not crazy about DU used in penetrators, but let's not muddy the waters by calling it nuclear weapon, because it isn't one.
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It is important to realize that DU penetrators are solid uranium 238. During an impact approximately 40 % of the penetrator forms DU oxides which are left on the terrain, within or on impacted equipment, or within impacted structures. The remainder of the penetrator (60%) retains its initial shape. Thus we are left with a solid piece of uranium lying someplace which can be picked up by children or adults. DU ignites upon impact. The resulting shower of burning DU causes secondary explosions, fires, injury, and death. DU fragments or oxides in the form of radioactive heavy metal contamination are also present. Simply: Who would want thousands of solid uranium penetrators or pencils of masses between 180 and 4500 grams lying in your backyard? Who would want any uranium contamination of any type lying in your backyard?
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