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Old 02-24-2010, 02:55 PM
 
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Another thing that I learned in college was to use multiple sources. Regardless, anti-intellectualism is rampant on the right.
Did you not see the quotes from multiple sources in the article?

Please comment on the historical exposé of Ed Schools' anti-intellectualism.
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Old 02-24-2010, 02:57 PM
 
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Hold on the title of your post and the title of the actual article are not the same. The survey was PROFESSORS not people with degrees, two separate sets of people. And once I read this I stopped. So basically he is says this survey is BS.

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Dr. Richard Brake, director of ISI’s Culture of Enterprise Initiative, cautioned that the survey results DO NOT say that all--or even most--college teachers think that America corrupts otherwise good people -- or that the Ten Commandments are irrelevant..
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Old 02-24-2010, 03:13 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Did you not see the quotes from multiple sources in the article?

Please comment on the historical exposé of Ed Schools' anti-intellectualism.
Sorry I should have said multiple and diverse sources featuring various points of view. The author appears to do an "Alex Jones/Rush/Glen" and only include supporting evidence and ignoring anything that refutes his theory. Essentially instead of using facts to build a point of view, he starts with a point of view and finds facts to support it... Which is advocacy, not research.

Now since you asked, my opinion is that the source of anti-intellectualism is not relevant and you are throwing it out there as a red herring. Anti-intellectualism is use by the right to continue the false perpetration of myth of a liberal elite and to also attract non-critical thinkers to their party, as it seems people with more developed critical thinking skills can't as easily be deceived and lied to and coerced in to voting against their own interest.
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Old 02-24-2010, 03:15 PM
 
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I think you could be on to something.
cleanhouse ! ... Absolutely correct !

The extraordinary example of one ultra-left young man in the WH with those vast "intellectual abilities" of his is enough proof for anyone !

Gosh he's sooooooooooo smart and all ! Thanks / Lamar
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Old 02-24-2010, 03:17 PM
 
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Not really...

There are a significant number of morons who have college degrees who simply regurgatated what they read in a book picked by instructors onto a scantron

At the same time, there are some really bright individuals with college degrees.

It all has to do with the person. Does the person want to do nothing more than get a degree or does the person actually want to LEARN SOMETHING
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Old 02-24-2010, 03:29 PM
 
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Eh...
I find those that are genuinely Happy and Satisfied, and have a college degree, are pretty much clinging to the middle, not the left or the right. The ones in the corners are like those old guys in the Muppet Show.
EasilyAmused !!! ... You are on the mark with this post !

Oh yeah ... it those folks in the the corners that you've mentioned that may remind us of this old saying :

" It is what we learn after we think we know it all that counts" !

My lord can we ever apply this analogy to some of these acutely "Flakey" ones in both corners !!!

Thanks / from a highly educated Lamar
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Old 02-24-2010, 03:35 PM
 
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I agree that was a pretty good line!

Both his muppet comment and your quote, too.
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Old 02-24-2010, 03:36 PM
 
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Sorry I should have said multiple and diverse sources featuring various points of view. The author appears to do an "Alex Jones/Rush/Glen" and only include supporting evidence and ignoring anything that refutes his theory. Essentially instead of using facts to build a point of view, he starts with a point of view and finds facts to support it... Which is advocacy, not research.
The opinion you express above is a knee-jerk, simplistic attempt at attacking the messenger instead of countering the assertions... an anti-intellectual response, if you will. Nevertheless, can you offer a historical analysis that refutes the author's analysis and the multiple quotes cited?

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Now since you asked, my opinion is that the source of anti-intellectualism is not relevant and you are throwing it out there as a red herring.
Actually, the source of the anti-intellectualism is quite relevant, as millions of K-12 students have absolutely no choice as to which school they attend. They are captive recipients of an anti-intellectual education.

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Anti-intellectualism is use by the right to continue the false perpetration of myth of a liberal elite and to also attract non-critical thinkers to their party, as it seems people with more developed critical thinking skills can't as easily be deceived and lied to and coerced in to voting against their own interest.
If you truly believe that, here's your chance to do something about eradicating anti-intellectualism at its source: support vouchers/school choice - the money follows the student instead of trapping the student.
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Old 02-24-2010, 03:40 PM
 
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Not really...

There are a significant number of morons who have college degrees who simply regurgatated what they read in a book picked by instructors onto a scantron

At the same time, there are some really bright individuals with college degrees.

It all has to do with the person. Does the person want to do nothing more than get a degree or does the person actually want to LEARN SOMETHING
machiavelli1 !!! ..... Excellent ! An extremely logical post !

Thanks / Lamar
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Old 02-24-2010, 03:55 PM
 
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Actually, the source of the anti-intellectualism is quite relevant, as millions of K-12 students have absolutely no choice as to which school they attend. They are captive recipients of an anti-intellectual education.

If you truly believe that, here's your chance to do something about eradicating anti-intellectualism at its source: support vouchers/school choice - the money follows the student instead of trapping the student.
Sorry, I don't expect your tax dollars to pay for my Judaism, mine aren't going to pay for your kids to learn about Jesus.

I'm guessing by school choice you mean that you should have the choice to send your kids to a school that teaches theology as science, doesn't have/teach tolerance and diversity, and has organized Christian prayer during the school day?

No thanks. You can be a neanderthal all day long, but my tax dollars aren't going to support your kids becoming one.

You have the option to send your kids to private school now. Or home school them.
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