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Old 02-24-2010, 03:58 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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Sorry, I don't expect your tax dollars to pay for my Judaism, mine aren't going to pay for your kids to learn about Jesus.

I'm guessing by school choice you mean that you should have the choice to send your kids to a school that teaches theology as science, doesn't have/teach tolerance and diversity, and has organized Christian prayer during the school day?

No thanks. You can be a neanderthal all day long, but my tax dollars aren't going to support your kids becoming one.

You have the option to send your kids to private school now. Or home school them.
Well said...
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Old 02-24-2010, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Way,Way Up On The Old East Coast
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Good Afternoon,

We are all fully aware of the great accomplishment and exceptional benefit of a college degree.
Especially one that has truly been earned vis hard work and much dedication ! It's a great feeling to consider ourselves at least somewhat of an educated person according to the worlds so called standards because we hold a degree or two or so .

And yet I am just a wee bit curious and all about just one little old thang ... " Do you have to have a hard earned college education to be an "Intellectual" or can just about anybody be one in 2010 ???

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH ! You know the guy I'm hinting about don't you ?

Thanks / From a well educated older Lamar
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Old 02-24-2010, 04:02 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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Sorry, I don't expect your tax dollars to pay for my Judaism, mine aren't going to pay for your kids to learn about Jesus.

I'm guessing by school choice you mean that you should have the choice to send your kids to a school that teaches theology as science, doesn't have/teach tolerance and diversity, and has organized Christian prayer during the school day?

No thanks. You can be a neanderthal all day long, but my tax dollars aren't going to support your kids becoming one.

You have the option to send your kids to private school now. Or home school them.
From http://http://www.au.org/issues/ (http://http//www.au.org/issues/ - broken link):

under:
http://http://www.au.org/issues/religious-school-vouchers/ (http://http//www.au.org/issues/religious-school-vouchers/ - broken link)

it states:
Americans have the right to support only the religious groups of their choosing. Vouchers and other forms of government aid to religious schools usurp this privilege by forcing all taxpayers to subsidize indoctrination. Religious organizations are free to sponsor schools, but they should be responsible for their upkeep.

There is more info on the link but that was its intro page.
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Old 02-24-2010, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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According to the results of this study that answer may well be Yep, Yep and yep. It seems that those with degrees are more likely to believe in same sex marriage and a number of things that you need to read to the end of the article to see all of.

CNSNews.com - College Professors Are More Likely to Believe ‘Ten Commandments are Irrelevant Today,' New Study Says (http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=61703 - broken link)
Thats because when you go to college you think, instead of holding onto tired religious beliefs that were outdated 1000 years ago.

Also, women who go to college are more open to "sexual adventure" so to speak. They'll try things most girls won't do.
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Old 02-24-2010, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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According to the results of this study that answer may well be Yep, Yep and yep. It seems that those with degrees are more likely to believe in same sex marriage and a number of things that you need to read to the end of the article to see all of.

CNSNews.com - College Professors Are More Likely to Believe ‘Ten Commandments are Irrelevant Today,' New Study Says (http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=61703 - broken link)
There are street smarts and books smarts. If you happen to be both you will probably make it in this world.
if you re street smart and not book smart you will make it also.
if you are book smart without a lick of street smart you will fail
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Old 02-24-2010, 04:13 PM
 
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Another thing that I learned in college was to use multiple sources. Regardless, anti-intellectualism is rampant on the right.
Wow, I didn't need to go to college to learn to use multiple sources. Go figure.

The right isn't anti-intellectual. We just know that going to college is not necessarily an indication of intelligence. And not having gone to college isn't necessarily an indication of a lack of intelligence.

In many cases, going to college says much more about opportunity than brains.
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Old 02-24-2010, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Wow, I didn't need to go to college to learn to use multiple sources. Go figure.

The right isn't anti-intellectual. We just know that going to college is not necessarily an indication of intelligence. And not having gone to college isn't necessarily an indication of a lack of intelligence.

In many cases, going to college says much more about opportunity than brains.
Yet when people say George W. Bush was a stupid idiot, the usual conservative response is,

"Well, he went to Yale."
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Old 02-24-2010, 04:19 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Wow, I didn't need to go to college to learn to use multiple sources. Go figure.

The right isn't anti-intellectual. We just know that going to college is not necessarily an indication of intelligence. And not having gone to college isn't necessarily an indication of a lack of intelligence.

In many cases, going to college says much more about opportunity than brains.
I agree with this mostly (except the part about the right not being anti-intellectual... just watch a Fox news anchor pander to the idiocracy for a few and you'll agree with me "I didn't know what it meant... So I looked it up..." Puh-Leese!).

However whether or not someone goes to college is TOO often about opportunity. That's why I support programs that give lower SES, qualified high school graduates the opportunity to go to college. Would you join me in supporting these social programs that will better society?

While going to college is not necessarily and indication of intelligence, one has to have a degree of intelligence (and the fortitude) to do the work to graduate from most colleges. While there they will inevitably gain skills and knowledge that will benefit them. It is not inherent intelligence that I referred to in my earlier post about critical thinking. It is a skill developed well in a university or college setting.

I hope you will join me in in increasing opportunities for poor and minority students to go to and complete college with a greater degree of frequency.
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Old 02-24-2010, 04:21 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Sorry, I don't expect your tax dollars to pay for my Judaism, mine aren't going to pay for your kids to learn about Jesus.

I'm guessing by school choice you mean that you should have the choice to send your kids to a school that teaches theology as science, doesn't have/teach tolerance and diversity, and has organized Christian prayer during the school day?

No thanks. You can be a neanderthal all day long, but my tax dollars aren't going to support your kids becoming one.

You have the option to send your kids to private school now. Or home school them.
Explain to me how a supposedly enlightened college-educated individual comes to the conclusion that all schools other than a student's assigned local public school are religious schools.
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Old 02-24-2010, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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This makes me very happy. The sooner we get rid of fairy tales and book of myths from schools, the better.

When you get a degree, you are educated. Most of them know there is no there is no danger in same sex marriage and MOST IMPORTANTLY you realize just how silly religion is. I know I am and I am going through university. To do what? I am going for education and eventually hope to become a professor to put more logic into students. Yes, conservatives. I will be there to brainwash your children with my liberal beliefs.
Don't talk liberal beliefs when it is obvious you are one of those progressives which is a bit more lefty than liberal.

I never managed to think like you but then both of my degrees were earned in the 1950s before progressive professors were throwing their Woodrow Wilson kind of thought. Yep, you are being taught by other progressives and many of them are leftovers from the Vietnam protest days.

I really loved that statement about becoming a professor and being able to put more logic into students. That kind of thinking was what the professors of the 20s and 30s were thinking when they were pushing communism. What ever happened to that kind of thinking? Maybe you need to look at CPUSA.org and see that they are not only still around they are very happy to see the progressives like Obama in control.
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