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Old 02-24-2010, 04:23 PM
 
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Sorry, I don't expect your tax dollars to pay for my Judaism, mine aren't going to pay for your kids to learn about Jesus.

I'm guessing by school choice you mean that you should have the choice to send your kids to a school that teaches theology as science, doesn't have/teach tolerance and diversity, and has organized Christian prayer during the school day?

No thanks. You can be a neanderthal all day long, but my tax dollars aren't going to support your kids becoming one.

You have the option to send your kids to private school now. Or home school them.
As someone who is not religious in any way, I'd just like the opportunity to have my children attend school where they don't sing the praises of a president. My tax dollars shouldn't support that sort of indoctrination, but it does....

Quite the hypocrite, aren't you? You want children taught tolerance, yet you call someone that is religious a neanderthal?
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Old 02-24-2010, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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That's one stupid survey. So more professors are likely to agree that America corrupts otherwise good people? I'm sure professors would agree that just about anything corrupts otherwise good people. Educated people are taught to think for themselves and not immediately spout what they learned in grade school. There are shades of gray out there; not everything is black and white. The educated are more aware of those shades, while less-educated people prefer black and white.
I say that you are wrong but then I have only two college degrees and enough hours beyond for another degree. I continued to think for myself instead of taking the word of professors like tlv who says she wants to stack her logic on college kids.

You need to do some reading about why the communists of the 20s and 30s picked colleges as their favorite targets. You get those kids who are away from home finally, and who are very easy to convince of progressivism and you use them. Oh, yes, I meant to mention that the progressives of the 20s and 30s were the communists.
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Old 02-24-2010, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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The religious community has long known that education can often lead to the end of belief. Or at least certain beliefs.
Just as Progressives have known for a long time that in order to get rid of religion they have to spread their crap far and wide. It is progressivism that has led to thinking like yours and the progressives have always wanted to kill Christianity because it held them back.
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Old 02-24-2010, 04:36 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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As someone who is not religious in any way, I'd just like the opportunity to have my children attend school where they don't sing the praises of a president. My tax dollars shouldn't support that sort of indoctrination, but it does....

Quite the hypocrite, aren't you? You want children taught tolerance, yet you call someone that is religious a neanderthal?
I don't see how calling one person with obviously backwards, hateful, homophobic views a Neanderthal makes me a hypocrite. It's not his religious views that make him a Neanderthal... It's his views towards gays and other marginalized groups. Nice try, professor.

The presidency is put on a pedestal in most schools-- No matter who is president. Just cause you don't like the current president doesn't change that. The first political figure that children recognize is the president-- Before the mayor, governor, etc... I'm pretty sure you didn't have that complaint when Bush was president.
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Old 02-24-2010, 04:36 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The opinion you express above is a knee-jerk, simplistic attempt at attacking the messenger instead of countering the assertions... an anti-intellectual response, if you will. Nevertheless, can you offer a historical analysis that refutes the author's analysis and the multiple quotes cited?
Still waiting for that historical analysis, mlassoff...
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Old 02-24-2010, 04:36 PM
 
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According to the results of this study that answer may well be Yep, Yep and yep. It seems that those with degrees are more likely to believe in same sex marriage and a number of things that you need to read to the end of the article to see all of.

CNSNews.com - College Professors Are More Likely to Believe ‘Ten Commandments are Irrelevant Today,' New Study Says (http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=61703 - broken link)
Because they have a better knowledge of either science, psychology, sociology, anthropology, etc. and are less likely to blindly follow antiquated ideals like deaths to homosexuals.

This doesn't mean that people without college degrees may not do the same thing. In fact, I know many people without college degrees that believe in homosexual marriage. However, it means that a greater proportion don't believe in such things...most likely for the reasons above (ignorance of the data out there).
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Old 02-24-2010, 04:39 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Still waiting for that historical analysis, mlassoff...
You'll get it when you grow udders and get milked.

It's irrelevant, and you've been told so over and over again. You found one document that blames the rampant anti-intellectualism on progressives while supporting an anti-science, pro-theology agenda that truly is anti-intellectual.

Again the article that you link to is a red herring, and completely irrelevant to the discussion here. So, if you want to give homework assignments, you might want to try elsewhere.
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Old 02-24-2010, 04:41 PM
 
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Another thing that I learned in college was to use multiple sources. Regardless, anti-intellectualism is rampant on the right.
Hence the Sarah Palin worship and the teaparties...
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Old 02-24-2010, 04:41 PM
 
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According to the results of this study that answer may well be Yep, Yep and yep. It seems that those with degrees are more likely to believe in same sex marriage and a number of things that you need to read to the end of the article to see all of.

CNSNews.com - College Professors Are More Likely to Believe ‘Ten Commandments are Irrelevant Today,' New Study Says (http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=61703 - broken link)
And the moral of the story is...?
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Old 02-24-2010, 04:46 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You'll get it when you grow udders and get milked.
In other words, you can't refute it, and have found an 'intellectual' way of expressing your frustration at your shortcoming.
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