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I have a good one as well. How about $230 for one Percoset? That was a shock when we got the bill. Costs are out of control and this is the area we need to tackle. This health care bill does not bring down the costs for hospitals or doctors or the consumer.
Way to ignore the facts and pretend they aren't there!
I expected nothing less.
Let me guess. You think you know how I think about the issue because of my username! You'd be wrong, and I'm more familiar with the situation than my brief reply may indicate. I'm not in denial of the facts nor do I pretend that they're not there; however, indigence and illegal immigration are only a part of the health care quagmire. The problem is much more complex than that.
No, a Tylenol pill does not cost you $140 at that hospital.
A Tylenol pill, plus the charges for the unemployed mother who keeps going there to have her babies,
Ah, the extinct welfare queen as arisen from the grave of AFDC in order to haunt, once again, the political dialogue. The poor, get Medicaid and as a result have no bearing on your argument. Now, as for the same woman who works 20 hours a week - the maximum number of hours that employers give, even in good times, to avoid paying benefits before becoming qualified for benefits at some Big Box - you're right. Hospitals are gouging you and I to pay fore her.
As for the illegal aliens, since no one is wiling, or could if they wanted to, deport 2 million plus illegals, some would prefer to keep them from paying even a small portion of their income to purchase health insurance. Go figure.
No, a Tylenol pill does not cost you $140 at that hospital.
A Tylenol pill, plus the charges for the unemployed mother who keeps going there to have her babies, plus the charges for the illegal aliens who go there for everything, all of which is mandated by the Federal govt, but none of which is paid for by the Fed govt, costs you $140 at that hospital.
You whiny leftists who keep insisting health care is a "right", now do you understand?
Yes, without gouging the paying patients, there would be no way for hospitals to offer the completely free care to the types you mention and remain open.
No, a Tylenol pill does not cost you $140 at that hospital.
A Tylenol pill, plus the charges for the unemployed mother who keeps going there to have her babies, plus the charges for the illegal aliens who go there for everything, all of which is mandated by the Federal govt, but none of which is paid for by the Fed govt, costs you $140 at that hospital.
You whiny leftists who keep insisting health care is a "right", now do you understand?
Like to be around when your jobless benefits and Medicare are ready to run out. You'll condemn the younger person just like you slapping your open hand.
Conservative mind set = "me, myself and I"! Real team players.
Way to ignore the facts and pretend they aren't there!
I expected nothing less.
I think that you are oversimplifying when you blame the illegal aliens for all of our country's health system woes. I think that's an easy cop-out, HOWEVER, I don't blame you for your view considering that it's something that's put out there every day by the political pundits. I'm sure that there are many who think like that.
And your whole "I expected nothing less" is really not helping because in reality, every one of us is going to require a trip to the ER, or perhaps be stuck with a debilitating illness or who knows what, and it has nothing with the "whiney left" or anything else.
We have a real problem in our country that's not being addressed at all because there are those who thrive and profit (namely the insurance companies) because they have figured out how to keep us dazed and confused while they run amok. They have us blaming each other instead of blaming them. I think they are out for a HUGE profit, not a normal profit, but a HUGE profit at the expense of the lives and health of those they purport to protect.
They are about CEO super-bonuses and mega-profits at the expense of companies who can no longer afford to cover their employees and small business owners who cannot afford to cover themselves, much less their employees. We can go on blaming the other guy, the other party, but in the end, we all suffer when we cannot afford to pay our hospital/doctor bills because they are just so out-of-control. People are getting their houses foreclosed on due to judgments. Hospitals, etc. are getting judgments against people's paltry bank accounts and other assets. Hospitals are putting liens put on anything they can get their hands on. Wages are being garnished.
Seriously, for such a "rich" country, we are really going to h*ll in a henbasket.
Oh boy, lets go over this for the umpteenth time. Does the Tylenol cost 100 dollars? No, it doesn't. However you have to pay the Pharamcist to check the Tylenol, make sure it really is a Tylenol and make sure that the patient isn't already on a drug that may have Tylenol in it. That's at least (in NYS) 100k.
Then you have to pay for the lights, and computers and fax machines and everything else that makes the Pharmacy run.
Then you have to pay the nurse to double check the Tylenol, sign off on the orders then walk it down to your room with a little cup of water. Thats at least (in NYS) around 70-80K.
Then while putting the Tylenol into your mouth you drop it. Cha-ching.
Then you have the Hospital who has to make up for money LOSING dept's like the ED who hemorrhage money for reasons that we won't go into here.
Health services sought equally by Mexican, non-Mexican residents
Driven by rising health care costs at home, nearly 1 million Californians cross the border each year to seek medical care in Mexico, according a new paper by UCLA researchers and colleagues published today in the journal Medical Care.
An estimated 952,000 California adults sought medical, dental or prescription services in Mexico annually, and of these, 488,000 were Mexican immigrants, according to the research paper, "Heading South: Why Mexican Immigrants in California Seek Health Services in Mexico."
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