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Taxing a religiuos based school would violate speration of church and state. Does the left really wan tto do that
That alleged separation is violated every time a religious establishment enjoys the benefits of publicly financed services; i.e. police-fire services, etc.
How does "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" exempt religious establishments from paying their fair share of property taxes, etc.? Especially in today's America where various religious groups have no qualms about diving into politics. They should pay for that privilege like anyone else.
That alleged separation is violated every time a religious establishment enjoys the benefits of publicly financed services; i.e. police-fire services, etc.
How does "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" exempt religious establishments from paying their fair share of property taxes, etc.? Especially in today's America where various religious groups have no qualms about diving into politics. They should pay for that privilege like anyone else.
governemnt that taxes a church is violating separation. I thought the left was for separation
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governemnt that taxes a church is violating separation. I thought the left was for separation
As I've already stated, that alleged separation is violated every time a religious establishment enjoys publicly funded government services. It's also violated every time politics are preached from the pulpit. When a religious establishment attempts influencing government it's time they pay to play.
As I've already stated, that alleged separation is violated every time a religious establishment enjoys publicly funded government services. It's also violated every time politics are preached from the pulpit. When a religious establishment attempots influencing government it's time they pay to play.
So it OK for government to interfere with the church? So you do not want a church to use the police if they are broken into? then you have to allow the church to have their own police and militia to protect themselves. Much like Indian nations have. Do you really want the church to have there own police force? How much would you be decrying violation of constitutional rights by the church.
You plan would be to allow the church to have their own police force.
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So it OK for government to interfere with the church? So you do not want a church to use the police if they are broken into? then you have to allow the church to have their own police and militia to protect themselves. Much like Indian nations have. Do you really want the church to have there own police force? How much would you be decrying violation of constitutional rights by the church.
You plan would be to allow the church to have their own police force.
Get a clue, I've said no such thing.
I want the church to pay to support the police services they use as every other individual/business does. My plan would have religious institutions paying taxes on the property they own the same way any other profit making business does because they are.
I guess I forgot, many who run screaming SOCIALISM! at the mere mention of spending $$$ on Americans have no problem spending it on religious establishments when it suits their agenda.
I want the church to pay to support the police services they use as every other individual/business does. My plan would have religious institutions paying taxes on the property they own the same way any other profit making business does because they are.
I guess I forgot, many who run screaming SOCIALISM! at the mere mention of spending $$$ on Americans have no problem spending it on religious establishments when it suits their agenda.
What is that but selective socialism?
You said the church is violating separation by using the police. So if they are to not violate separation then they still would have a right to protect there property.
If calling the police is a violation of separation then the church would have to defend itself.
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You said the church is violating separation by using the police. So if they are to not violate separation then they still would have a right to protect there property.
If calling the police is a violation of separation then the church would have to defend itself.
No, I said no such thing!
What I've said all along is that separation is alleged, it does not exist in reality.
You've failed to answer just how "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" should exempt any religious institution from paying regular property taxes on real property owned by those institutions?
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