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You guys are retarded. We have the lowest taxes in the entire free world. Ronald Reagan raised taxes higher than any standing president in american history. While I'm generally against taxes, you gotta pay for these two wars somehow! Now you can't have the best of everything guys, tax cuts & your wars. So **** and get off my internet tyvm
Now there is an argument that displays the true feelings of any Obama fan. The opposition is retarded.
We may as well just stop the discussion, with that said.
So let me get this straight, one president lowers taxes to the floor, spends and spends and spends, fully knowing that the next sitting president would have to raise taxes in order to cover his spending...
and you guys are falling for the trick?
Might I add, that all this so called "obama spending" you are referring to, was passed before Obama took office. The bailouts were Bush. Stop the spreading of lies and misinformation.
Obama isn't doing anything unusual. Our system is designed in such a way that the political mistakes of a former president will be blamed on a new one. And you guys seem to eat it up like you've never witnessed it before.
What we really need is a third or fourth political party, so that the stalemate and old rhetoric become a bit more fluid.
Why do we only have two choices? Do you go to restaurants with two things on the menu?
You might also add that it was passed by a majority democrat congress and I included Obama's cronies as part of the problem.
I think it's hilarious that so much of what's used to defend Obama is "Oh, yeah? Well, Bush did this and that!" Who the hell cares?!
We're supposed to be improving ourselves and moving forward. We don't care what someone else did - we want to know how he (and his band of socialist scum) is going to make this country more like we want it. So far, I'm not seeing anything positive out of this presidency, either. And what looms down the road is terrifying.
Okay fine. I'm not an Obama supporter, and I draw the line at being called that. But let me ask, why you guys care so much about what the federal government does, how much it spends, or what any of this nonsense. Get back to work, love your family, earn your money, educate yourselves as much as you can, and enjoy your lives. None of this stuff matters.
Post after post of accusations, without a single article link, or fact to back your opinions up. Which tells me that you're just blowing smoke, and thats about as valuable as monopoly money here in the real world. People in general decide to think for themselves, no matter how many times you repeat the mantra.
But again, he's only a president, and if you read your Constitution and understand his role and his limitations, you would know already, that a vast majority of the things you have blamed on him are well beyond his constitutional duties.
I'm a big proponent of defending the constitution and leaving the governance of the people to those who are closest to the people, the states and local governments. Which where I live they have fantastic healthcare, fantastic social services and things for people who are in need. And we have very high property taxes because of that, but I also have a quality of life that would be pleasurable for a Sultan. I don't care if my neighbor sits at home collecting checks, and reproduces and has children that he cannot afford.
I don't spend my time worrying about that, because I don't live in a robber baron world, or a win lose world.
And I find it so silly that we're at war on two fronts, and you guys are so unpatriotic as to name call the leader of our military. War people! Have you no shame?
? I question the concern for national debts or deficits or how this relates to your grandchildren. Can't you just assume responsibility for educating them on sound things like savings and investments and stockpiling assets? Even to be silly as to save some gold? I mean if you don't want government healthcare or lower cost access to thinks..then surely you are wealthy enough to educate your progeny on finances. And if you don't want the federal healthcare, don't buy it. Avoid anyone who takes the federal taxes breaks for it..it might cost you a little more, but you'll have the security of knowing you are paying the full cost for what you are consuming. And while you are at it, send the troops some kevlar and shells, because you don't want UncleSam to raise taxes for those things either. And if all else fails just stop paying taxes. Turn off your televisions. Or move to Canada. Of course then you'll be an immigrant, I hope you don't mind being treated as such.
Personally, I don't give one rip about Obama, the puppet President, but he has hurt our country by diminishing the United States on an international level. He is such a fool.
Actually, he has repaired and ingratiated our good image with the rest of the world that the last president tarnished so badly.
I responded in another thread but I think I want to say it here too. I think Obama's debt business model is causing enormous pain. And being an 'enabler', meaning creating more debt instead of creating jobs (like the TVA of the previous depression).
I just heard the month of February alone had the biggest deficit in the history of the USA (not just a month), and quite honestly can think of a few farmers who could have used the money over those who received it..
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Originally Posted by texdav Look at the countries i the western world we will see most of western europe go teh way of greece long before the USA. There outlook for growth is the worse to 2040 of any major area of the world in economist studies on growth. Estimated at 1.5% and the US at 3.5% average. They hav alot fo p[roblems consuming so much of their GDP for government.
I'll agree, only that is of small consolense(-sp) that the US average growth is only 3.5%.
However I still see a large population moving to the cities/urban areas as farming and manufacturing is closing down for what ever reason (cough). Unfortunately the jobs in those urban areas are also drying up, for whatever reason (cough, cough).
As we become less and less self sufficient, and more and more dependent on other countries, we must have more money to buy such items/service because we have nothing of value to trade. But where is the money to come from if we have nothing to offer?
DEBT.
AND, we must secure our sources, right? We must ensure the other countries that provide us with our items/services are kept viable and must not fall or we will fall, hence we must engage in military action to protect them (our interests). It cannot last.
Unfortunately the US is an island, save Canada and Mexico, which means our supplies need to cross oceans to get to us. I seriously doubt there will be any 'Berlin Airlifts" to (the) US when the time comes and we will have no adjacent countries worth invading to replace our needs once we're kicked out of the rest of the world.
I use to say, not in my lifetime, now I am not so sure, particularly when I read about all those websites about stockpiling weapons for 'the day'. I don't agree with them, but they are growing exponentially to a point that they just can't be ignored any longer. [LEFT]
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Obama and the Pelosi/Reid Congress have taken my time away from being a productive citizen to instead fight their Communist agenda. Cost me $$ constantly calling, writing, and faxing elected representatives to remind them that they derive their power to govern from we the people.
Financially, the ever growing debt of the Obama administration is as yet going to be immesurably negative. I have a house I need to sell this year that has lost more than 25% of its value since Obama's election. I'll reap less $ from the sale, the house will spend more time on the market.
Captial gains on any investments will be taxed at a higher rate in 2011. My father may die this year and the Pelosi gang is looking to increase the "death tax" on anything he may leave behind.
I could go on and on on how much Obama is costing me personally. However, the negative effects on this nation from one year of his Presidency are quite evident:
Constant race-baiting and race tensions/division not seen in this country since before the passage of civil rights legislation in the 1960's. Much of the division is coming from leaders in minority communities like Rev. Wright, Farrakahn & La Raza as well has irrelevant Hollywood talking-heads who falsly attribute those agaist Communist policies as being racists against Obama.
The nationalization of private industry by the government to the detriment of corporate bond holders with legal rights yet ignored when their ownership was turned over to union special interests.
The debt upon the next 3-4 generations to follow come very close to ensuring at least the next two generations will inheret a country less prosperous than the one of the generations that preceded them.
Each over-reach of the government from their Constitutional authority has a negative impact upon the freedoms of ever American citizen, whether they choose to acknowlege it or not.
"So let me get this straight, one president lowers taxes to the floor, spends and spends and spends, fully knowing that the next sitting president would have to raise taxes in order to cover his spending... "
You are wrong. When taxes are lower, the government brings in MORE money. Check your history.
Okay fine. I'm not an Obama supporter, and I draw the line at being called that. But let me ask, why you guys care so much about what the federal government does, how much it spends, or what any of this nonsense. Get back to work, love your family, earn your money, educate yourselves as much as you can, and enjoy your lives. None of this stuff matters.
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? I question the concern for national debts or deficits or how this relates to your grandchildren. Can't you just assume responsibility for educating them on sound things like savings and investments and stockpiling assets? Even to be silly as to save some gold? I mean if you don't want government healthcare or lower cost access to thinks..then surely you are wealthy enough to educate your progeny on finances. And if you don't want the federal healthcare, don't buy it. Avoid anyone who takes the federal taxes breaks for it..it might cost you a little more, but you'll have the security of knowing you are paying the full cost for what you are consuming. And while you are at it, send the troops some kevlar and shells, because you don't want UncleSam to raise taxes for those things either. And if all else fails just stop paying taxes. Turn off your televisions. Or move to Canada. Of course then you'll be an immigrant, I hope you don't mind being treated as such.
With posts like this, no wonder you have 11 rep for 6 posts.
Why do we care what government spends?? Because it is our hard earned money!!
I'm sorry, but this country was never founded on the idea that we must live our lives as if the federal government was hostile towards us.
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