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I think it's more accurate to say some homophobes are gay. The are some perfectly straight people that have been raised to hate gays and do so without ulterior motive. It's hardly productive to shame someone into accepting gays by using the veiled threat of simply calling them gay.
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Originally Posted by Nomander
Then again, I don't think I have ever been greeted by someone with "Hi, my name is Steve, I have anal sex with my wife", though I have had on a number of occasions been greeted with "Hello, my name is Tom, btw I am gay" /shrug
a) I don't think all gay men have anal sex.
b) When introduced to a husband and wife do you think, "Hi, I'm Steve and I have vaginal intercourse with my wife"?
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Originally Posted by ryanst530
Well I'm offended that you think gays ARE normal.
Gays are NOT normal. Get over it.
Neither is flying in airplanes, but that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it.
It seems to me that ANYTHING perceived as 'gay' will be considered 'shoving it in our face'. Absolutely anything from two men holding hands to a weird play about gay Jesus. If you just go about your day and not dwell on it, it becomes less of an issue. I've never even batted an eye when I've seen two men kiss. Not a big deal. Not my issue.
Perhaps straights should commission a pamphlet to be distributed in gay communities, to define what activities are "shoving one's sexuality" in other's faces.
For example:
Going to dinner with another of the same sex = potentially gay. If you are gay, to avoid "shoving one's sexuality" in the face of the waiter, be sure to split the check, or make loud observations that "you and your business partner will put the bill on the company expense account."
Two women holding hands = potentially gay. Wear T-shirts that say "I <3 my sister ----> <----- I <3 my sister" while walking down the street so people believe that you are affectionate siblings.
Buying a house with another of the same sex = potentially gay. To make the realtor more comfortable, and to avoid shoving your sexuality in her/his face, proclaim, as above, that you and your companion are "co-investors."
Apparently, some straight people are emotionally and intellectually immature, so these and other measures are necessary until they, as a group, grow up and stop acting like middle schoolers.
I wouldn't say that. But I'm sure he expected this to be extremely controversial to the point that it would generate plenty of discussion. This thread has 120 posts over two days (I'm only on the third post) so I kind of think he was right about that.
I saw no irony in JerZ's post. I did, however see a lot of truth. The title of this thread is quite offensive. My gay and lesbian friends ARE 'normal folk'.
would be nice if they left "it" in the bedroom, rather than what they are doing to us normal people. It really is detestable
Who is doing what to you? Is someone forcing you to go see this play? Are they forcing you to watch as they have sex? This normal person has never been subjected to anything like that and I really don't think you have either. What, exactly, are gays and lesbians doing to you?
Then again, I don't think I have ever been greeted by someone with "Hi, my name is Steve, I have anal sex with my wife", though I have had on a number of occasions been greeted with "Hello, my name is Tom, btw I am gay" /shrug
And this 59 year old has never been greeted by anyone whose first statement is about their sex life or sexual orientation. Once again, I think you are either lying or stretching the truth to make yourself look 'better'.
Are straight people on here really not getting enough sexual pleasure in their lives from the opposite sex that they have to constantly focus on what gay people do?
Yes, it seems that way.
Do me a favor and don't dump all of us straight people in the same boat. We don't all think like Silas, just as all gays don't necessarily think like you.
No I have no idea what act nor am interested in it, but the definition of homosexuality is sexual preference. So to make it a statement is to declare ones sexual preference.
I would disagree with the highlighted - it's not 'sexual preference'; it's sexual orientation. And I believe that's also the way the APA defines it.
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