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Old 03-26-2010, 11:51 AM
 
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Oh I forgot about that mistake.

The CBO created in 1975 underestimated the cost of the origninal medicare bill passed in 1965.

You take care of yourself up there OK?..... Bye.
Congress has used the same methodology to estimate costs long before the responsibility was delegated to separate entity. Unless you are trying to argue that Congress never even estimated the costs of their own legislation before the office was created? Good luck with that argument.
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:11 PM
 
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CBO might be very good in counting the numbers but when they are asked a questions they just answer the question regardless of the it is reflecting the issue completely. This is happening for both sides...when Dem. ask a partisan question they will get the numbers that they like. When Rep. ask a partisan question they will get the same nice answer that will help them...
And your evidence is what? Do you know what CBO does? Do you know anyone who works there? Do you think you could qualify for a job at CBO?

Here are some typical requirements for an analyst position...

Applicants should have a Ph.D. in economics or a related discipline and a strong quantitative background, ability to clearly present their work orally and in writing, and a desire to work on issues of current legislative interest to the Congress. Successful candidates will be able to work independently and complete work in a timely manner. Salary is competitive and will be commensurate with experience, education, and other qualifications. CBO offers excellent benefits and an attractive work environment.


Or if you just wanted to be a gopher...

The position requires a person who can work well with a number of senior staff members, take initiative to gather suitable data to address policy questions, and complete assignments in a timely manner. Candidates should have strong quantitative, writing, and computer skills, and a desire to work on issues of current legislative interest to the Congress. Candidates should have a bachelor’s degree in economics or a related discipline. Salary range: $37,000-$43,000, commensurate with experience, education, and other qualifications.

So, how are you stacking up against those standards?
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:22 PM
 
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Do you know that the Constitution requires that a bill be in the same form from each house before they send it to the President for signature and that the House version of the Senate bill contained a bunch of "fixes" that were to be taken care of later.
No, the Senate and House passed the identical bill. Then they passed the identical bill to amend the first bill. You'll have to dredge up some right-wing faux outrage elsewhere.

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Violations of the Constitution ran rampant through the end of last week, but the Dems are in control of both branches of the government so we have to go along with them as they take another chunk out of the Constitution.
Got an example? You and your various "freedom" and "liberty" antisocial types have a tinker-toy understanding of and appreciation for the Constitution. You wrap yourselves in the flag and then betray the republic that it stands for. Borders on disgraceful from a rational point of view...
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:29 PM
 
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Applicants should have a Ph.D. in economics
And that says it all right there. Robots thoroughly indoctrinated by left-wing academia.
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:31 PM
 
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And that says it all right there. Robots thoroughly indoctrinated by left-wing academia.
Yeah, like Milton Friedman.
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:32 PM
 
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Congress has used the same methodology to estimate costs long before the responsibility was delegated to separate entity. Unless you are trying to argue that Congress never even estimated the costs of their own legislation before the office was created? Good luck with that argument.
No, advances in computing capacity have essentially remade the world of models and projections since the early 1970's and before. The chief gain in creating CBO meanwhile was to place the agency firmly within the ranks of the explicitly non-partisan data agencies. This put an end to useless he-said/she-said bickering back and forth over which among competing analyses was more correct.
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:37 PM
 
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Yeah, like Milton Friedman.
Did he ever work at the CBO?...

Answer, NO
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:39 PM
 
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No, advances in computing capacity have essentially remade the world of models and projections since the early 1970's and before. The chief gain in creating CBO meanwhile was to place the agency firmly within the ranks of the explicitly non-partisan data agencies. This put an end to useless he-said/she-said bickering back and forth over which among competing analyses was more correct.
Politicians LIE

Those LIES are then scored by the CBO

garbage in...garbage out

Why is this difficult to understand?
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:39 PM
 
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Did he ever work at the CBO?...

Answer, NO
You're the one taking a dump on Ph D's and our incredibly liberal college system., not me.
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:47 PM
 
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Did he ever work at the CBO?...
Answer, NO
Friedman did however work for the US Department of the Treasury and was one of the group that developed the system of federal tax withholding schemes that you so much enjoy participating in today...
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