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Old 03-26-2010, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Newport Coast, California
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As an American Jew, I think the US should cut off ALL aid to Israel. What Israel is doing is ruining what chance there is of peace. Its like someone putting their house on fire and then screaming for help. Israel is making radicals out of the remaining Arab moderates. It would be little surprise if Hamas is elected on the West Bank and there is a war; Israel will come crying for $.
Yea, right, I think this is an example of what is called in the radio business a "seminar caller". A person who claims to be a part of a group only to criticize and undermine, and are not actually who they claim to be.

Seminar caller:

A seminar caller is someone who mainly telephones radio talk shows for the purpose of promoting opposing political point of view as if it were genuinely spontaneous, or grassroots or their own.

Many seminar callers try to portray themselves as regular people, claim to agree with the host's point of view, then begin to read a contrary opinion from an agenda or list of talking points widely circulated by a group or organization who oppose the views of the host.
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Old 03-26-2010, 08:06 PM
 
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Actually, Netanayhu snubbed Obama first. He threw a hissy fit when Obama asked him to freeze their illegal settlements.

Obama isn't jeopardizing our relations with Israel, Netanyhu is jeopardizing Israel's relations with us. We have always been supportive of Israel and have given them trillions of dollars in aid.

However, when we ask them to freeze settlements, they act like a little kid, stomp their feet, and throw a hissy fit. It is really sad what they are doing and even sadder that they are willing to jeopardize our relations over this.
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Old 03-26-2010, 08:39 PM
 
Location: California
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Israel is the problem.....One of the main reason for 911 was over israel and the support we provide...You teabaggers should be happy Obama is standing up and forcing Israel to the table...I mean all the billions in aid we provide a free and prosperous country...I would think teabaggers would unite and protest why America is subsidizing and providing entitlements to Israel? Where's the outrage with that? Or is that another issue too complex to understand?
Enough about blaming Israel for 9/11.

The Muslim fanatic hate us, they hate you, they hate Israel, they hate anyone who is not Muslim.
They are about 10% -15% of a Billion and a half Muslims. The rest are not resisting them.


Try to understand, it has nothing to do with Israel.
With who is the President and whether he likes Israel or not.

Even when Carter was the President, and forced Israel to give the Sinai Desert to Egypt for a piece of paper. (The Sinai Desert was the only place in Israel that had oil).

Israel was forced to give up, and in return received nothing. Until today Egyptians can not even visit Israel, because they will be badgered by their government.

Even then, with Carter the President that supported the Islamic revolution. The Muslims still reacted by taking over the US embassy and held American hostages.

So enough with this c***. Even if you drop a bomb on Israel, and expelled all Jews from the USA, they will still come after us.

You remind me of Judge that is excusing the child molester, and trying to understand him, and send him on parole, because he has more sympathy with the Villain.
We give money to horrible countries that hates our guts, while Israel love America.
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Old 03-26-2010, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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Hillary was there, asking for the halt to settlements, and the foul Ms Condi Rice was as effective as a gnat in a bat cave asking Israel to stop expanding settlements, and she had BIG fangs. She never used her bite, just her weedy little bark.
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Old 03-26-2010, 08:49 PM
 
Location: California
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Actually, Netanayhu snubbed Obama first. He threw a hissy fit when Obama asked him to freeze their illegal settlements.

Obama isn't jeopardizing our relations with Israel, Netanyhu is jeopardizing Israel's relations with us. We have always been supportive of Israel and have given them trillions of dollars in aid.

However, when we ask them to freeze settlements, they act like a little kid, stomp their feet, and throw a hissy fit. It is really sad what they are doing and even sadder that they are willing to jeopardize our relations over this.
We don't have any right to tell Israel where to built houses in Jerusalem, their Capital, just because they owe us money. Do you want China to tell us where to build in Washington DC?? We owe them much more.

You don't seem to understand the situation there.

When one people (Palestinian Arabs ) want to kill the other one, say it, declare, teach it and actually do kill by any mean possible. Then the US should say to them first stop killing, stop teaching hate, then the other side would do something for you.
Obama is asking only of Israel to "take steps" while calling the Palestinian President and telling him, that he has no reason to talk to Israel.
Is he trying to reach a settlement or is he trying to show that he is the MAN?
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Old 03-26-2010, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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An observant American Jew. Being Jewish does not mean accepting everything Israel does.
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Old 03-26-2010, 08:55 PM
 
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We don't have any right to tell Israel where to built houses in Jerusalem, their Capital, just because they owe us money. Do you want China to tell us where to build in Washington DC?? We owe them much more.

You don't seem to understand the situation there.

When one people (Palestinian Arabs ) want to kill the other one, say it, declare, teach it and actually do kill by any mean possible. Then the US should say to them first stop killing, stop teaching hate, then the other side would do something for you.
Obama is asking only of Israel to "take steps" while calling the Palestinian President and telling him, that he has no reason to talk to Israel.
Is he trying to reach a settlement or is he trying to show that he is the MAN?
Actually since Israel's ability to build where they wish with the knowledge that they can do so by force is dependent on the US arming Israel they do have the right to suggest where Israel should build in Jerusalem unless of course Israel doesn't want anymore military aid from the USA. China can tell the US whatever it wants. Since the USA doesn't need China to protect Washington DC, it doesn't really mean much.
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Old 03-26-2010, 09:02 PM
 
Location: California
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I support Israel's right to exist, but they're involved in some seriously provocative things right now, and if we don't stand up to them we risk losing our credibility. Obama isn't taking an anti-Israel stance here, he's taking a tough stance against some of their actions.
Again, all Israel did was continue what they have been doing for the last 60 years, which building in Israel.
Building houses, industries, hospitals, etc. Allowing people to prosper.

All the Palestinian Arabs do is building bombs and teaching hate, not just for Israel but for us as well. Look at their TV, papers, radio, schools etc. Check MEMRI - The Middle East Media Research Institute for translation and videos.

At the same time the Biden was in Israel, the Palestinian Authority was throwing a big celebration naming a street after a terrorist who killed over 35 Israelis. Did Biden say anything about that?

How would you feel if Mexico just named a street after Usama Bin Ladin?
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Old 03-26-2010, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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We don't have any right to tell Israel where to built houses in Jerusalem, their Capital, just because they owe us money. Do you want China to tell us where to build in Washington DC?? We owe them much more.
What if Washington started bulldozing Chinatown in order to build a "New American Utopia." China begs us not to destroy "Chang's House of Wu" and we just delight in crushing it. We assure the Chinese that building the "new Utopia" will make the region much safer from "would be" malcontents. We assure them that we will not build any more, but we do, and they cut off our funds, and call in our debt. They call us ingrateful parasitical leeches. We declare war because we think they are being "poor sports."
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Old 03-26-2010, 09:22 PM
 
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Well its all in the israeli hands as to iran because the international commutity are going to do nothing but talk as usual.I personally always support a lay rather than those that support our enemies and terrorist.
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