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conservatives are always the ones that are scared of the future and resist change of even the smallest magnitude.
The usual lie about conservatives told by the usual blinders-on hysterics, who can't stand the truth and reasons for what conservatives actually think, and especially can't refute it.
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Now we have a leader
We do? Who could tell?
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He is trying to solve problems including health care,
He made it FAR worse.
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deficits,
Far worse on average than any President in history except FDR, who presided over a major war brought on by other big-govt leftists.
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the economy,
Worse than any in modern history, except the abovementioned big-govt leftist who took a depression caused by other big-govt leftists and drew it out longer than (again) any in history.
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financial reform,
None seen.
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entitlement reform
He made them far worse.
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and Iran's nuclear program.
Completely mishandled to the point where Iran is on the verge of having nuclear weapons.
Amazing. It's not easy to rack up a perfect 0-for-everything record, but the current leftists in power have managed it.
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I may not always agree with his methods of doing what he does but at least he is doing something.
The same can be said about a bull in a China shop.
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Doing nothing is safe. Doing something is risky.
And doing something wrong, is destructive.
And doing nearly everything wrong, is catastrophic.
And indicative of a basically mistaken outlook on life.
The mistake in this case, is in thinking that government's job is to "do things". But it isn't.
Government's job is to keep people from interfering with each other, so that people can then "do things".
Liberals look at governments that stick to this comparatively passive role, and deride them for not "doing things". That's like seeing a large, stupid, and potentially dangerous animal in a China shop, watching it make its way though without causing a disaster while the creative people who work there produce beautiful and useful works of art, and complaining that the bull didn't "do anything".
People who do this have a basically mistaken outlook on life.
Sensible people know that the best results come from keeping the bull securely chained up and sedated, while the people who produce the beautiful and useful things are left free to do their jobs. Only when one of those people starts causing major problems, do you unleash the bull... and even then, you must watch the bull even more closely than you watch the problem-causers.
BTW, regarding "hiring the President to do his job"... the position comes with a job description. One ratified in 1789, and which has only occasionally been modified, as the bosses knew was necessary. Confining the officeholder's activities to what the job description says, isn't "optional", despite what the present custodian of the office (a brilliant reference by its 40th custodian) seems to think.
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The usual lie about conservatives told by the usual blinders-on hysterics, who can't stand the truth and reasons for what conservatives actually think, and especially can't refute it.
What do conservatives actually think?
After all, they claim to be for less government, to claim government is THE problem, and claim to be for less government spending yet they revere Reagan who both grew the evil government he alleged was THE problem and spent like a drunken sailor on whatever suited his agenda.
Doesn't give much indication consefvatives actually think at all.
Reagan did not propose that. It was a compromise with the Democrats in Congress.
"Compromise" is what it wasn't.
Reagan agreed to an amnesty, on grounds that we would also close up the border and prevent any more illegal aliens from coming in. And signed laws making BOTH things mandatory.
Whereupon Congress did the first and ignored the second.
Reagan's mistake was in trusting liberals to do what they said they would.
OP:Most EXCEPTIONAL Presidents Are LEFT Of Center!
Doing something wrong, is destructive.
And doing nearly everything wrong, is catastrophic.
And indicative of a basically mistaken outlook on life.
The mistake in this case, is in thinking that government's job is to "do things". But it isn't.
Government's job is to keep people from interfering with each other, so that people can then "do things".
Liberals look at governments that stick to this comparatively passive role, and deride them for not "doing things". That's like seeing a large, stupid, and potentially dangerous animal in a China shop, watching it make its way though without causing a disaster while the creative people who work there produce beautiful and useful works of art, and complaining that the bull didn't "do anything".
People who do this have a basically mistaken outlook on life.
Sensible people know that the best results come from keeping the bull securely chained up and sedated, while the people who produce the beautiful and useful things are left free to do their jobs. Only when one of those people starts causing major problems, do you unleash the bull... and even then, you must watch the bull even more closely than you watch the problem-causers.
BTW, regarding "hiring the President to do his job"... the position comes with a job description. One ratified in 1789, and which has only occasionally been modified, as the bosses knew was necessary. Confining the officeholder's activities to what the job description says, isn't "optional", despite what the present custodian of the office (a brilliant reference by its 40th custodian) seems to think.
A bull in a China shop can be called "exceptional"... mostly because people will remember what bulls in China shops usually do, more starkly than they will remember what the creative people in the shop did.
Clearly, "exceptional" isn't necessarily good. A fact that applies especially to our "exceptional" leftist Presidents.
So basically you are trying to covertly herd obama into the flock of accomplished 'exceptional presidents' by claiming that his left of center credentials are his qualification ?????
Left of center is different than extreme far left.
Obama is in his own class as the most disasterous administration in US history...that does make him exceptional. His incompetence is seperate from his unethical behavior intended to further his handlers unwanted euro style socialism. Taken together it has been 8 destructive years for the USA.
I feel that Obama truly is an exceptional president.
However, keep in mind that "exceptional" means far from the norm. One can be exceptionally good...or bad. I think history will find him to be an exceptionally BAD one. More corrupt (by far) than Nixon, and more inept than Carter.
Reagan agreed to an amnesty, on grounds that we would also close up the border and prevent any more illegal aliens from coming in. And signed laws making BOTH things mandatory.
Whereupon Congress did the first and ignored the second.
Reagan's mistake was in trusting liberals to do what they said they would.
True. Congress never funded securing the border or increased immigration enforcement. They, Congress failed to keep their end of the deal.
Our nation was built on challenges and the great men who rose to meet and conquer them. Men who not only welcomed change and hope but fought for it. Men who were told "you can't do it" but did it anyway.
Now the conservatives will heap praise on such people and tell you how wonderful they are but these same conservatives are always the ones that are scared of the future and resist change of even the smallest magnitude. They praise George Washington and drool over Pigeon Forge but if they were around back then, they certainly would have sided with the King and opposed the hope and change that Washington brought.
They laud Lincoln today but would have stood with the "state's rights" bunch if they had lived then. They speak of Martin Luther King now but hated him then.
Once again we face challenges. Challenges that too many Presidents swept under the rug or kicked down the road for somebody else to deal with (and yes, I include Bill Clinton in that).
Now we have a leader that has decided that the can is not going to be kicked down the road anymore. He is trying to solve problems including health care, deficits, the economy, financial reform, entitlement reform and Iran's nuclear program.
I may not always agree with his methods of doing what he does but at least he is doing something. Doing nothing is safe. Doing something is risky. It may turn out to be the wrong thing (ask LBJ) as it was in Vietnam. It may turn out to be the right thing as it was with the Interstate Highway System, Medicare and Social Security.
As I have long stated I did not agree with anything Reagan did but he was a strong and decisive leader and I appreciated that after 4 years of Jimmy Carter and, when he ran for term 2, he got my vote (a real feat for any republican!).
When you do things, you will make errors from time to time. Reminds me of a cop that was on TV news once when they were doing one of their ratings "investigations". The reporter said "you have had xx number of citizen complaints filed against you which is more than any other officer" to which the cop said "perhaps so but I also make more arrest than about any other officer too and I could come in and put in my shift taking it easy and never get a complaint but that is not what the taxpayers hired me to do"
Great Presidents do what the taxpayers hired them to do. Provide leadership and make the changes necessary to keep the country strong, educated and in good shape. They are "transitional" and exceptional leaders. And usually, with the exception of Reagan, they are liberal or center left.
Obama has the potential to join the ranks of Washington, Lincoln, Eisenhower, LBJ, FDR, Truman and Reagan. He needs to keep his nerve and follow his instincts and NOT listen to the right wing.
"Now we have a leader that has decided that the can is not going to be kicked down the road anymore."
"Provide leadership and make the changes necessary to keep the country strong,"
Now THAT is a laugh!
"You can fool SOME of the people ALL of the time"!
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