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Old 04-19-2010, 05:32 PM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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America is angry. Crazed militias. Grassroots revolt. A capital at war. The country is tearing itself apart.

America is angry - World - Macleans.ca

....The result, with Republican politicians cowed into moving ever farther to the right by pundits like Fox News host Glenn Beck, talk radio’s Rush Limbaugh, and activists from so-called “Patriot” groups and the burgeoning Tea Party movement, has been toxic rhetoric and rabid polarization in Washington, divisions arguably even more marked than under George W. Bush. “In terms of partisan conflict, we’ve never really seen anything like this and it’s really shocking for a country that by and large has hung its hat on moderation—compromise between conservatives and liberals,”

Last edited by CaseyB; 04-20-2010 at 04:11 AM.. Reason: too long, post just a snippet from an article
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Old 04-19-2010, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Columbus
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Total nonsense.
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Old 04-19-2010, 05:50 PM
 
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YouTube - I Am Sick And Tired - Hillary Clinton
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Old 04-20-2010, 01:37 AM
 
Location: North Pacific
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We're not torn apart. We've fallen apart.
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Old 04-20-2010, 01:59 AM
 
Location: Northeast NJ
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Sandy Maisel, a political scientist at Colby College in Maine who has written about third-party movements in the U.S., is even more pointed: “What I worry about is that [Tea Partiers] capture the Republican party like the Goldwater people did in ’64—and then what you have is a very conservative, very small minority party. It seems to me that’s not good for a two-party system.”
I view this as a good thing, sorta. We won't get anywhere as a country if people continue to look at things as "You either have this set of views and you're a Republican, or you have that set of view and you're a Democrat." The problem is that people seem to vote reflexively (not to mention they have short memories). Republicans screwed up big time the last 8 years? Elect Democrats! Oh...Democrats are screwing up now...let's vote back the Republicans! Rinse and repeat. It doesn't seem to enter into the minds of the majority that if they keep electing politicians...they will get just that, politicians.
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Old 04-20-2010, 02:00 AM
 
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Why don't you come back in a week. Some high profile Democrats are now trying to buddy up to the Tea Party. If that writer wanted crazed he should reflect on the 60s when liberals were protesting and their crazed protest since then.

The left cannot stand the simple fact that hussein obama's actions have been so drastic it was the last straw that finally broke the camel's back.
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Old 04-20-2010, 02:18 AM
 
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Why don't you come back in a week. Some high profile Democrats are now trying to buddy up to the Tea Party. If that writer wanted crazed he should reflect on the 60s when liberals were protesting and their crazed protest since then.

The left cannot stand the simple fact that hussein obama's actions have been so drastic it was the last straw that finally broke the camel's back.

This started long before obama came on the scene. Not that most here will accept itbut I know for a fact because I ' was ' involved until the stupid pros came in .like Paul and Palin and started dividing us . We were fighting the bush stimulous ,illegal immigration and other topics, then the pro illegals groups were invited to Washington Tea party to speak and that did it for me .
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Old 04-20-2010, 02:39 AM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Why don't you come back in a week. Some high profile Democrats are now trying to buddy up to the Tea Party. If that writer wanted crazed he should reflect on the 60s when liberals were protesting and their crazed protest since then.

The left cannot stand the simple fact that hussein obama's actions have been so drastic it was the last straw that finally broke the camel's back.


I'd say he is over the top drastic!!!!!!!!!!!!! and the final straw, was the final punch.
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Old 04-20-2010, 03:52 AM
 
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This started long before obama came on the scene. Not that most here will accept itbut I know for a fact because I ' was ' involved until the stupid pros came in .like Paul and Palin and started dividing us . We were fighting the bush stimulous ,illegal immigration and other topics, then the pro illegals groups were invited to Washington Tea party to speak and that did it for me .
i'd say that this washington times article disagrees with that:
Immigrant groups try to steal thunder from tea party - Washington Times

i agree that the tea parties started with the actual bailouts and that was prior to obama becoming president. they are, however, gaining momentum in opposition to obama's big government agenda. people wanted CHANGE and got more of the same......

i think the tea party should allow anyone to attend or be allowed to speak, but the "agenda" itself should not change-which is opposition to big government spending, higher taxes, and illegal immigration, as well as loss of personal freedom.

the fact that our government is so out of control with the spending that we can't even influence countries in the middle east anymore should teach us a lesson that all unemployed people already know, which is "no money, no power". a government that is constantly borrowing to just keep up with expenses is a government out of control.

again here are the actual figures:

We added more Federal debt than had been accumulated in 217 YEARS in just a little over THREE YEARS - from 2007 to the third month 2010. THINK ABOUT THAT!

The ugly truth is that this debt load (currently $12.8 trillion, more or less) presents interest expense. If the Fed Funds Target was to reach just five percent, and every bit of the Treasury debt was to be refinanced into overnight obligations at that same 5%, the interest expense alone of the current debt would be $640 billion a year.

If the Treasury was to have to pay a roughly 6% average coupon (reasonably aggressive with a 5% Fed Funds Target) the interest expense would be $768 billion annually.
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Old 04-20-2010, 04:05 AM
 
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The left cannot stand the simple fact that hussein obama's actions have been so drastic it was the last straw that finally broke the camel's back.
Let's see...his predecessor led the nation into a major war for no reason, just snatched people off the street and didn't bother to charge them with anything, simply ignored the law in violating rights to privacy, made torture a part of our national policy, deliberately gutted the work of a decade in creating a strong federal budget position, used signing statements, a disgraceful theory of a unitary executive, and blanket claims of executive privilege to put his administration above and beyond the law, pretended that environmental law simply didn't exist, proposed an Unequal Rights Amendment to the Constitution, tried to destroy Social Security, and of course gave free rein to a bunch of cowboy capitalists as they proceeded to torpedo the global economy. And you guys think Obama's actions have been drastic?

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