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Old 05-02-2010, 09:27 AM
 
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Once again S&H 'd....





SEE DATE:

OPIC finds BP negligent with BTC Pipeline
6 February 2007

The U.S. Government Overseas Private Investment Corporation (OPIC) recommended to British Petroleum (BP) that more safety precautions are needed for the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan (BTC) Pipeline, which transports oil from the Caspian Sea through Azerbaijan and Georgia to Turkey.

OPIC, which lends to and insures emerging market projects, concluded that BP needs to pay more attention to the parts of the pipeline that are buried in soil with high groundwater levels and concentrate efforts to prevent corrosion and leaks.

These recommendations have gone unheeded, and OPIC surveyed the pipeline after receiving a complaint from the Georgian environmentalist, Manana Kochladze of Green Alternative, a member of CEE Bankwatch Network. They found that a coating paint that was supposed to prevent corrosion had been ineffective. BP claims that they have tried fixing this coating, but these attempts have clearly been insufficient and unsuccessful. """"""






NOW once again could you state exactly

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Obama


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have

done


sooner????


Try weally weally hard....




Thanks for finally admitting the Cheney administration was REALLY late in responding to Katrina...
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As usual, you miss the relevant point. The response AFTER the accident is the main issue.



I meant regarding the spill itself.
I know you never answer direct questions but could you give my question above a whirl????
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Old 05-02-2010, 09:37 AM
 
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Not if you're a shrimp fisherman.

But hey -- they're mostly Vietnamese immigrants, anyway. And today Obama and the other progressives are celebrating the downfall of Saigon.

Party on.
Are you now and have you in the past supported the call for more offshore drilling- and the call for drilling in the Arctic?

The ones that drill, those that maintain the equipment, are the ones responsible-not Obama-but the right never seems to want to blame industries behind such pollution for their disasterous effects to the environment.
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Old 05-02-2010, 09:38 AM
 
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You didnt address what I said about..."Having to drill in such deep water"....Guess you have no answer.
As for good and sufficient reason is my usual habit, I wasn't responding to you. Are you claiming that BP was forced by environmentalists into using shallow-water technology to drill in deep water? What do you think it was that prompted BP to put a platform on this spot to begin with? Desire to avoid protesters in little rubber rafts?
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Old 05-02-2010, 09:52 AM
 
Location: AL
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[quote=saganista;13999809]As for good and sufficient reason is my usual habit, I wasn't responding to you. Are you claiming that BP was forced by environmentalists into using shallow-water technology to drill in deep water? What do you think it was that prompted BP to put a platform on this spot to begin with? Desire to avoid protesters in little rubber rafts?[/quote]


Exactly......Look what happened.

You answered my question without even realizing it,thanks
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Old 05-02-2010, 11:11 AM
 
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spoken like someone who does not live in Louisiana and doesn't know federal law. Bush couldn't send in federal troops without the governor's approval. She, the governor, did have control of National Guard troops which she did not use until far too late. Amtrak had a train leaving New Orleans and offered Mayor Nagin the use of the train to help evacuate people from the city, a perfect opportunity to evacuate those with physical difficulties like those in nursing homes. He turned them down and said no thanks. Louisiana volunteers drove their privately owned school buses to NO to help evacuate people after the flooding but were turned back by state police on orders from the governor's office. Private boaters volunteered to go to NO to get people out of the city and drove from Lafayette to NO but were stopped by the state police on orders from the governor's office.

I know about the proper steps, I think a pres. who was on top of this would have by passed this and got things done. pres. do all kinds of things to get their pet projects past road blocks, even doing things not above board. if there was ever a time for the POTUS to pick up a phone call and make sure stuff was getting done this was it. there is no excuse for the the poor handling of katrina. the buck does and should stop at the desk of our pres.
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Old 05-02-2010, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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I know about the proper steps, I think a pres. who was on top of this would have by passed this and got things done. pres. do all kinds of things to get their pet projects past road blocks, even doing things not above board. if there was ever a time for the POTUS to pick up a phone call and make sure stuff was getting done this was it. there is no excuse for the the poor handling of katrina. the buck does and should stop at the desk of our pres.
So you advocate a US president to break the laws and constitution he's sworn to uphold?
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Old 05-02-2010, 11:21 AM
 
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So you advocate a US president to break the laws and constitution he's sworn to uphold?
in this case yes. like a good "boss" he should have called his "senior and middle managers" to make sure the job was getting done. I find it hard to believe that a governor or a mayor would have told the POTUS to butt out. bush should have been way more pro active.
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Old 05-02-2010, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Most of those states didn't want big government or Federal interference, they're on their own.

It would be Socialism for us to force emergency aid on them
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Old 05-02-2010, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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in this case yes. like a good "boss" he should have called his "senior and middle managers" to make sure the job was getting done. I find it hard to believe that a governor or a mayor would have told the POTUS to butt out. bush should have been way more pro active.
Then you don't know those Louisiana Politicians and how pig headed those two actually were. Remember, this governor was also having state police turn back volunteers from within the state. Thank god she's out of office. I'm proud to say I never voted for her in any election.
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Old 05-02-2010, 11:25 AM
 
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So you advocate a US president to break the laws and constitution he's sworn to uphold?
What laws would those be, because the National Emergency Act of 1976 clearly allows the President of the United States to unilaterally declare a national emergency and as such the power to Federalize any response to a national disorder of disaster.
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