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I was wondering where the Tea-Party was during Bush 2's 8 year spending spree. The Tea-Party began to form rapidly once Obama was elected and was ready to protest less than 3 months after he took office. It's strange that Bush doubled the deficit+ and created a peice of legislation that directly infringes on freedom in the Patriot Act but no Tea-Party/mass conservative whining as there is today. Is the TP just a group of people that mobolize to whine about whatever a Democratic President does? Will their be a TP if and when a republican ever wins the White House or will they return to wherever they go and again remain silent?
The Tea Party started off as a Ron Paul movement (kind of, he just used the idea), so I don't think it's fair to label it as all pro-Bush. In fact, they've already made progress in fighting against big spenders on the Republican side (such as what happened in Utah). The problem though is that the Tea Party didn't get any media coverage until the idea of "mailing a tea bag to Congress" idea caught on in February 2009 when the stimulus bill came out along with all of the other bailouts.
Here's a tea party rally that was held back in December of 2008: Boston Tea Party 2008 - Save the date: 12.14.2008 | Ron Paul 2012 | Campaign for Liberty at the Daily Paul (http://www.dailypaul.com/node/73588 - broken link)
I was wondering where the Tea-Party was during Bush 2's 8 year spending spree. The Tea-Party began to form rapidly once Obama was elected and was ready to protest less than 3 months after he took office. It's strange that Bush doubled the deficit+ and created a peice of legislation that directly infringes on freedom in the Patriot Act but no Tea-Party/mass conservative whining as there is today. Is the TP just a group of people that mobolize to whine about whatever a Democratic President does? Will their be a TP if and when a republican ever wins the White House or will they return to wherever they go and again remain silent?
It's not spending it's Obama
but who cares, they can hardly draw a big enough crowd to fill two tour busses.
If the press would stop following them around they would die off
There was a similar movement back in the early 90s in reaction to then president H.W. Bush's tax hikes and subsequent backpedaling on campaign promises. In response, a lot of Conservatives voted for Ross Perot in '92, which effectively fractured Bush's support and cost him the election. Republicans and Conservatives soon rallied together against a common enemy (Clinton), and in 1994 effectively cleaned house in the mid-term elections..
The same fate probably awaits the TP movement.. Sure it might stay coherent for a short time, but eventually they will have to pick a side if they hope to win elections..
The Tea Party started off as a Ron Paul movement (kind of, he just used the idea), so I don't think it's fair to label it as all pro-Bush. In fact, they've already made progress in fighting against big spenders on the Republican side (such as what happened in Utah). The problem though is that the Tea Party didn't get any media coverage until the idea of "mailing a tea bag to Congress" idea caught on in February 2009 when the stimulus bill came out along with all of the other bailouts.
Here's a tea party rally that was held back in December of 2008: Boston Tea Party 2008 - Save the date: 12.14.2008 | Ron Paul 2012 | Campaign for Liberty at the Daily Paul (http://www.dailypaul.com/node/73588 - broken link)
December 08 is after November 08..It's just ironic that you heard not a peep during Bush2s entire cash happy term.
An even better question.....where was the liberal equivalent of the Tea Party during the Bush years? Libs whine and complain because conservatives and independents--and even some Democrats--are now organized and protesting the big spending spree going on in DC today. Where were all of you during the Bush years? Why didn't you have your own Tea Party rallies going on? Oh yeah....you were just sulking and whining. Well, if you weren't out doing something constructive back then, you have no right to complain when someone else does so now.
There was a similar movement back in the early 90s in reaction to then president H.W. Bush's tax hikes and subsequent backpedaling on campaign promises. In response, a lot of Conservatives voted for Ross Perot in '92, which effectively fractured Bush's support and cost him the election. Republicans and Conservatives soon rallied together against a common enemy (Clinton), and in 1994 effectively cleaned house in the mid-term elections..
The same fate probably awaits the TP movement.. Sure it might stay coherent for a short time, but eventually they will have to pick a side if they hope to win elections..
God conservative love to claim this however there is no basis for it. Perot drew equally from both parties.
An even better question.....where was the liberal equivalent of the Tea Party during the Bush years? Libs whine and complain because conservatives and independents--and even some Democrats--are now organized and protesting the big spending spree going on in DC today. Where were all of you during the Bush years? Why didn't you have your own Tea Party rallies going on? Oh yeah....you were just sulking and whining. Well, if you weren't out doing something constructive back then, you have no right to complain when someone else does so now.
Frozenyo like so many progs just can't understand that the Stimulus and the bailouts caused the Tea Party to organize. They are convinced that all the group wants is to get rid of Obama because he is black. They have convinced themselves that it is all racial. It is too bad that they accept that crap from the progressive side of the Dem party.
An even better question.....where was the liberal equivalent of the Tea Party during the Bush years? Libs whine and complain because conservatives and independents--and even some Democrats--are now organized and protesting the big spending spree going on in DC today. Where were all of you during the Bush years? Why didn't you have your own Tea Party rallies going on? Oh yeah....you were just sulking and whining. Well, if you weren't out doing something constructive back then, you have no right to complain when someone else does so now.
I think you were either not paying attention or are just purposefully forgetting what liberals were doing during the Bush years. Liberals were certainly organizing and protesting. You didn't see any of the war protests? You're not aware that democrats organized, campaigned, and won a majority in the Senate and House in 2006? Did you forget about the election of Obama?
An even better question.....where was the liberal equivalent of the Tea Party during the Bush years? Libs whine and complain because conservatives and independents--and even some Democrats--are now organized and protesting the big spending spree going on in DC today. Where were all of you during the Bush years? Why didn't you have your own Tea Party rallies going on? Oh yeah....you were just sulking and whining. Well, if you weren't out doing something constructive back then, you have no right to complain when someone else does so now.
It's no secret that the democrats and liberals tend to be very unorganized, but let's no pretend like they didn't have a reason to **** and moan about an administration that will go down as one of the worst in history.
My thoughts on why the Tea Partiers are so organized? I think it has a lot to do with who many of them are and where many of them came from. The majority, I've seen, are simply your average Americans - church-going, blue-collared folks that probably underachieved academically, and I think those types are much easier to mobilize and to convince and coerce. It doesn't mean they aren't capable of thinking for themselves - afterall, many of them have atleast a semblence of a point that I can agree with. The problem is that most of their opinions are borrowed and gathered haphazardly - many foolishly believe that the forefathers were Christians, that atheists are on the attack, that evolution is a farce, that religion needs to be in public schools, that Obama was born in another country, and so on and so forth. This is where I tend to remove myself from those types of people - they're so easy to sway and so slow to question.
Sorry if I offended anyone - just my take on why those types of people are so quick to organize - they're just so moldable, so quick to be organizable.
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