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LOL I take it you aren't familiar with bloomberg's games, trying to get states like VT to imitate NY gun laws among others. I know enough upstate NY'ers who hate NYC for forcing its will on them.
Random thoughts floating around online...
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Snuff Thibeau
i know let's invite him to Vermont! they have the optimum gun laws
May 6 at 8:55pm
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Chris Thibeau
Bloomburg pays other people to carry - he is retarded - just like NYPD - just not right where rich people like to complain, but employ others to do their dirty work
May 6 at 8:56pm
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Steven Thomas
Bloomberg is a total tool! This is a guy that threw the Tea Party people under the bus this week because he was trying to not offend Latino's! He's an American disgrace! Hate to profile but he's just another NYC elitist!
May 7 at 8:24am
I hear you arctic-- you hate that anyone dares disagree. You hate that anyone attempting to manage their own city might infringe in some way on your own rights. I get it, but I still disagree (while supporting 2nd amendment).
Naturally this justifies mudslinging garbage pointed at nearly 9 million people you and like minded folks are all too happy to pigeon hole as elitist because you failed to rationally state your case. NRA-ILA :: NYC Mayor Bloomberg's Anti-Gun Mayors Coalition
Care to explain why a Mayor in Idaho dropped out of this debate after he was threatened by constituents to be 'strung up'? Like minded people are justified in attacking the very existence of liberals, latino's, an entire police department, and how dare a politician fail to support a nefarious org like Tea?
Nobody I know from NY (or anywhere in USA) judges the entire state of Texas based on George Bush. The only reason you're permitted to exist freely in Vermont is because of their liberal tradition of tolerance & respect for individual rights, but when tolerance of others is inconvenient, you'll spit in their face. This isn't original. Hypocrisy is all too pedestrian.
I hear you arctic-- you hate that anyone dares disagree. You hate that anyone attempting to manage their own city might infringe in some way on your own rights. I get it, but I still disagree (while supporting 2nd amendment).
Naturally this justifies mudslinging garbage pointed at nearly 9 million people you and like minded folks are all too happy to pigeon hole as elitist because you failed to rationally state your case. NRA-ILA :: NYC Mayor Bloomberg's Anti-Gun Mayors Coalition (http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=2533 - broken link)
Care to explain why a Mayor in Idaho dropped out of this debate after he was threatened by constituents to be 'strung up'? Like minded people are justified in attacking the very existence of liberals, latino's, an entire police department, and how dare a politician fail to support a nefarious org like Tea?
Nobody I know from NY (or anywhere in USA) judges the entire state of Texas based on George Bush. The only reason you're permitted to exist freely in Vermont is because of their liberal tradition of tolerance & respect for individual rights, but when tolerance of others is inconvenient, you'll spit in their face. This isn't original. Hypocrisy is all too pedestrian.
I have zero tolerance for a person who tries to strip others of rights. I have zero tolerance for a mayor of one city trying to dictate to an entire state and other states. I have nothing but contempt for a city that infringes on people's civil rights. I have nothing good to say about NYC other than there's some nice museums and shops to visit now and then (but not until their gun laws are shredded and they will be). I can tolerate liberals when they don't try to use the government to harm others.
Vermont has a libertarian tradition not a liberal tradition. Until recent years it was considered the most "conservative" state in the country (when conservative meant more libertarian). A bunch of hippies and socialists moving in in recent years doesn't make for a liberal tradition. People like Mayor Kiss in Burlington want to imitate Bloomberg and NYC but our longstanding precedents prevent it.
The irony, of course, is that Alaskans see themselves as rugged pioneers standing up to a harsh environment. That may be, but government largesse does a lot more to support the state than its residents' fortitude. As well as paying no state income tax, Alaskans enjoy a gusher of federal money: about $8 billion a year, twice what they pay out in federal taxes. Only New Mexico and North Dakota do better. A third of all Alaskans work in government jobs, an astonishingly high percentage (though one that has little impact on their love of anti-government talk-radio). Many of Mr Murkowski's own proposals for boosting the state economy, such as a plan to increase logging in the Tongass National Forest, require the federal Forest Service to spend millions building new roads.
2010
Alaska: $1.35 billion 31% off budget
New York: $2.9 - 3.5 billion (undetermined, but lets call it 7% off budget relative to 2009).
Most recent update, not neglecting/ ignoring deficit mgmt...
NYS DOB: 2009-10 Mid-Year Update to the Financial Plan Executive Summary - Financial Plan At a Glance (http://publications.budget.state.ny.us/budgetFP/midYear_update/0910midyear_fpataglance.html - broken link)
ARRA Awarded Per Capita:
Alaska #1 of all states, $379 per head, only outdone by DC at a whopping $950 per head.
NY, hardest hit by finance industry collapse AND real estate bubble... $39 per head.
Appalachia...
Ohio devastated by massive layoffs and pernicious economic woes= $22
WV= $32
Pa= $50
Ky= $53
NC= $13
Miss.= $47
TN= $147
You were saying something about spendthrifts and gubbermint piggy sammiches? Taking back $8 billion free $$ to AK would solve NYS budget gap and then some. I welcome you to sweep your own porch, Sir.
Thank you to whomever repped me and said "Stupid Republicans" anonymously. The moderators can identify your stupid azz and deal with you appropriately. Of course I reported it and you will receive substantial compensation...
2010
Alaska: $1.35 billion 31% off budget
New York: $2.9 - 3.5 billion (undetermined, but lets call it 7% off budget relative to 2009).
Most recent update, not neglecting/ ignoring deficit mgmt...
NYS DOB: 2009-10 Mid-Year Update to the Financial Plan Executive Summary - Financial Plan At a Glance (http://publications.budget.state.ny.us/budgetFP/midYear_update/0910midyear_fpataglance.html - broken link)
ARRA Awarded Per Capita:
Alaska #1 of all states, $379 per head, only outdone by DC at a whopping $950 per head.
NY, hardest hit by finance industry collapse AND real estate bubble... $39 per head.
Appalachia...
Ohio devastated by massive layoffs and pernicious economic woes= $22
WV= $32
Pa= $50
Ky= $53
NC= $13
Miss.= $47
TN= $147
You were saying something about spendthrifts and gubbermint piggy sammiches? Taking back $8 billion free $$ to AK would solve NYS budget gap and then some. I welcome you to sweep your own porch, Sir.
Of course there's a difference: Alaska did not share in the massive infrastructure projects of the past while NY did. the federal government also controls most of Alaska's land and resources.
But substantially, New Yorkers can't possibly reflect a fair cross-section of America, if you claim (as Liberals do) that empathy is an important aspect of the Supreme Court. I personally feel that adherence to the letter of the Constitution is vital, but I'm old fashioned that way.
I shouldn't matter, but now that Liberals mostly believe that the Constitution is an outdated document, and that Supreme Court judgments should be reached through empathy, rather than Constitutionality, then the Supreme Court should logically be as diverse as America, not only from large cities in the Northeast.
I have zero tolerance for a person who tries to strip others of rights. I have zero tolerance for a mayor of one city trying to dictate to an entire state and other states. I have nothing but contempt for a city that infringes on people's civil rights. I have nothing good to say about NYC other than there's some nice museums and shops to visit now and then (but not until their gun laws are shredded and they will be). I can tolerate liberals when they don't try to use the government to harm others.
Vermont has a libertarian tradition not a liberal tradition. Until recent years it was considered the most "conservative" state in the country (when conservative meant more libertarian). A bunch of hippies and socialists moving in in recent years doesn't make for a liberal tradition. People like Mayor Kiss in Burlington want to imitate Bloomberg and NYC but our longstanding precedents prevent it.
It's so nice nice to know that you can judge an entire city based on their gun laws!There are Civil Rights and then you could choose not to live in NYC also.
Sorry if the mayor wants to keep criminals from owning guns.
That could be, there are a few different cities that would qualify. At least NYC does have one area that doesn't vote liberal, Staten Island. I also respect the NJ suburbs for voing for such an excellent Governor..Chris Christie.
Hes not turning out to be a good Governor as many ppl thought he would be , hes hiding things. Anyway the bulk 90% of my state still votes Democratic. Just look at recent Elections.
It's so nice nice to know that you can judge an entire city based on their gun laws!There are Civil Rights and then you could choose not to live in NYC also.
Sorry if the mayor wants to keep criminals from owning guns.
Your same argument was made in the 60's by Southern states. It's irrelevant whether or not I live there. Anyone's rights being violated, concerns everyone.
The mayor wants to keep everyone from owning guns except his buddies.
I have zero tolerance for a person who tries to strip others of rights.
So stop robbing others of theirs and maybe you'll find your self respect again. The world doesn't revolve around you anymore than it does NY.
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Originally Posted by arctichomesteader
I have zero tolerance for a mayor of one city trying to dictate to an entire state and other states.
The coalition of mayors was entirely voluntary. Some withdrew their consent without threats from peer mayors. That any of them would be withdrawing consent over threats from NRA members is telling. America's policy is zero tolerance for terrorists. We don't care who you think you are.
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Originally Posted by arctichomesteader
I have nothing but contempt for a city that infringes on people's civil rights.
Don't humor yourself that your opinion has any significance to them. You're free to avoid NYS entirely, but you're not free to dictate who they elect for mayor. If they want a purple hindu green party in office, that's who they're getting. The same will be said in VT or any other state in the union.
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Originally Posted by arctichomesteader
I can tolerate liberals when they don't try to use the government to harm others.
Liberals, most respectable NRA members, and the rest of us tolerate you until you try to use your 'rights' to abuse others. NY'rs have little to no tolerance for sharpton types and I discern no appreciable difference.
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Originally Posted by arctichomesteader
Vermont has a libertarian tradition not a liberal tradition. Until recent years it was considered the most "conservative" state in the country (when conservative meant more libertarian). A bunch of hippies and socialists moving in in recent years doesn't make for a liberal tradition. People like Mayor Kiss in Burlington want to imitate Bloomberg and NYC but our longstanding precedents prevent it.
Selective attention and clicking your heels 3 times will not deliver you to Kansas. Liberals are first cousins to Libertarians and they predate you. Classical Liberalism, Libertarianism, and Individualism There's a steep liberal tradition that far predates me visiting Vt as a kid many moons ago. Blatant in college towns and Burlington. The further out in the woods, the more a select population seem to lose track of their own boundaries. Coincidence? VERMONT CRIME REPORT - 2006 (http://www.dps.state.vt.us/cjs/crime_06/press.htm - broken link)
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The increases in Vermont’s Violent Crime Index Crimes mirror what is happening in other rural jurisdictions. Nationwide the increases in Violent Crime Index Crimes were greater in rural areas than in urban areas. In particular, increases in 2006 for murder, robbery, and aggravated assault were greater in rural areas than in urban areas. Though forcible rapes were down nationwide the decreases in rural areas were less than those posted in urban areas. Contrary to national trends, Vermont experienced an increase in forcible rapes in 2006.
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Originally Posted by arctichomesteader
Of course there's a difference: Alaska did not share in the massive infrastructure projects of the past while NY did. the federal government also controls most of Alaska's land and resources.
NY has been a Welfare provider. The facts were already posted in this thread and you deliberately avoided them again. Your patterns are obvious.
As for Fed controlling most of AK land and resources-- another lie. The State is barely managing the prime land that's 100% their own despite massive subsidies and steep taxation of singular resource. The Federal gov't bought sewards folly before Ak was ever a state, and paid again to settle up native claims in 71. It wasn't even a state until 1959, but you're going to allude they were cheated out of federal railway systems of the 1800's or industrialization of early 1900? They have their share of ghost towns in the wake of syndicated commerce.
Anything "Alaska" has is by the grace & generosity of lower 48 footing the bill before they were a gleam in anyones eye. 85% of state revenue comes from oil taxes and royalties, 90% of the infrastructure bankrolled by oil companies or US military, all for the least populated state that isn't loyal enough to hang around. 28% of Alaskans are native born, the rest are imported (Palin is a 'carpet bagger'), and outmigration far outweighs imports. Show me where any of these people took a dime out of their own pocket or stooped to lift a shovel to build their own roads the way the rest of America has had to roll up it's sleeves in the 30's. The Alaskan Permanent Fund is technically a communist plan but you've never heard a conservative, republican, or libertarian call that spade a spade. You've also never heard the lower 48 complain at them for how they saw fit to manage what's their own.
Go on young man. Move to AK before you'll no longer have the chance to lift yourself up by your 8 billion dollar bootstraps that someone else bankrolled.
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