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Old 05-17-2010, 06:54 PM
 
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Yes, too many lawyers in this country. Tort reform would fix many problems, including medical insurance costs. To me, watching a law school graduation is like watching a snake give birth. It makes my skin crawl.
Is it the lawyers, or the juries?
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Old 05-17-2010, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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They did it for crop insurance. If the crop is destroyed they can cash in on their insurance.
If they give any away or let you-pick-it then they cannot cash in on their insurance.

Most farmers take it out every year to hedge against their lost crops so it's not a total financial lose to them.
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Old 05-17-2010, 07:36 PM
 
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Is it the lawyers, or the juries?
It's the lawyers, I was on the jury of what I considered a frivolous lawsuit. After 4 days of testimony, $20,000 in doctor testimony fees we walked into a room and all immeditely agreed not guilty. Deliberations took 30 minutes and that included lunch. I will note both the Judge and lawyers complimented us before they read the verdict (or possibly after) on how good a jury we were during testimony. .

There is lot of trials like that and they have the system clogged, the lawyers treat the courthouse like a giant slot machine and keep pulling the handle until it goes ding, ding ding.
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Old 05-17-2010, 07:43 PM
 
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Oldsters like me have seen this sort of thing before; dairymen pouring milk on the ground, grains left in the field to feed migrating birds, etc. Farmers don't do this casually, it's almost always an odd tweak in marketing conditions.

Here's an excerpt from the story:

- Thanks to the freezing weather the state suffered this past January, normal staggered planting dates were disrupted, causing all the fruit to ripen at the same time, currently flooding the market.

Translation: This is a unique situation due to weather anomalies and nothing to get bent out of shape about. Even the firms that pack and freeze the berries would be overloaded during a glut period.
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Old 05-17-2010, 07:47 PM
 
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They did it for crop insurance. If the crop is destroyed they can cash in on their insurance.
If they give any away or let you-pick-it then they cannot cash in on their insurance.

Most farmers take it out every year to hedge against their lost crops so it's not a total financial lose to them.
Wait a minute.

There's insurance to cover willful loss because of low market prices?

Don't see how it's much different from arson on an overly insured building.
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Old 05-17-2010, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Wait a minute.

There's insurance to cover willful loss because of low market prices?

Don't see how it's much different from arson on an overly insured building.
Crop Policies and Pilots

This particular one might fit (from the link):

Revenue Protection policies insure producers against yield losses due to natural causes such as drought, excessive moisture, hail, wind, frost, insects, and disease, and revenue losses caused by a change in the harvest price from the projected price.
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Old 05-17-2010, 08:11 PM
 
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They did it for crop insurance. If the crop is destroyed they can cash in on their insurance.
If they give any away or let you-pick-it then they cannot cash in on their insurance.

Most farmers take it out every year to hedge against their lost crops so it's not a total financial lose to them.
If you read the whole article, then followed up on the update here...
Strawberry farmers issue rebuttal over ABC News report (Includes interview)
They have no crop insurance available to them. They were trying to minimize losses because they're already in the red.

Note the tone of the rebuttal-- how unfair they only told one side. Yes, there are many sides to the story. There's the side of the homeless guy, the side of the farmer, and then there's the side of people who wish the 'waste' could be managed more reasonably.

Of course we have an abundance of pro tort reform people glomming onto this thread trying to prove their case. Why can't I just sign a waiver form to the farmer and volunteer to pick strawberries for the soup kitchen? Common sense works if we work it. No legislation needed.
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Old 05-17-2010, 08:26 PM
 
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Why can't I just sign a waiver form to the farmer and volunteer to pick strawberries for the soup kitchen?
Because the insurance companies will not cover you, why take the risk and go through the trouble?
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Old 05-17-2010, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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If you read the whole article, then followed up on the update here...
Strawberry farmers issue rebuttal over ABC News report (Includes interview)
They have no crop insurance available to them. They were trying to minimize losses because they're already in the red.

Note the tone of the rebuttal-- how unfair they only told one side. Yes, there are many sides to the story. There's the side of the homeless guy, the side of the farmer, and then there's the side of people who wish the 'waste' could be managed more reasonably.

Of course we have an abundance of pro tort reform people glomming onto this thread trying to prove their case. Why can't I just sign a waiver form to the farmer and volunteer to pick strawberries for the soup kitchen? Common sense works if we work it. No legislation needed.
I just read the rebuttal. No insurance..what a pity.
Those guys are out the entire cost.
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Old 05-17-2010, 08:49 PM
 
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Because the insurance companies will not cover you, why take the risk and go through the trouble?
Maybe taking the risk would be acting more responsibly.
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