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Old 06-04-2010, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Can't think of a bigger con than the Irving Kristol trotskyite crew suggesting that forced extraction of US taxpayer money as "foreign aid" to Israel, Egypt and Palestine is somehow "conservative". Best...con...ever. But, then again that's why us REAL conservatives call ya neo-CONs.
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Old 06-04-2010, 03:33 PM
 
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President offered Palestinians a state, and they refused


instead, they chose to be governed by supporters of terrorist, and corruption.
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Palestinian Arabs have been offered the opportunity to create a state many times, starting with plans advanced during the British Mandate which the Arabs rejected. Then the United Nation partition plan of 1947, which brought Israel into existence, included a nation for the Palestinians, but the Arabs rejected it. Over the decades since there has been plan after plan that would bring peace to the region and a state for the Palestinians: all they had to do was let Israel live in peace. Arabs rejected all these plans, up to and including at Camp David in 2000Taba in 2001, and kept the armed struggle going. and LINK
It's nice to see a view put forward with sources to back it up. Too many wild, hateful comments on these threads.

Yes, the "Palestinian people" (a phrase that did not even come into existence until the 1970's) have been offered a state since 1948. They were simply called Arabs back then because most of them had drifted into Palestine from the neighboring Arab areas. They have rejected a state because the only state they want is Israel. And they WON'T GET THAT ONE.
Palestinian Myths
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Old 06-05-2010, 12:24 PM
 
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It's nice to see a view put forward with sources to back it up. Too many wild, hateful comments on these threads.

Yes, the "Palestinian people" (a phrase that did not even come into existence until the 1970's) have been offered a state since 1948. They were simply called Arabs back then because most of them had drifted into Palestine from the neighboring Arab areas. They have rejected a state because the only state they want is Israel. And they WON'T GET THAT ONE.
Palestinian Myths
Even if they would get it, they want more...they will never be happy with anything.

That is why many muslims are living all around the world and complaining about the laws and not enough mosques and they want more and more instead of living in the country where they were born and where they had all the things they now demand to have in other countries.
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Old 06-06-2010, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Even if they would get it, they want more...they will never be happy with anything.

That is why many muslims are living all around the world and complaining about the laws and not enough mosques and they want more and more instead of living in the country where they were born and where they had all the things they now demand to have in other countries.
Yesterday I heard a man, didn't get his name, talking to Rush Limbaugh and all he could say is that the far left in this nation has taken up sides with the Islamists in an attempt to destroy the US so they can have their way. I think the lefties have missed the real truth, though, since the Islamists want to establish an international caliphate and that wouldn't leave the lefty Americans anything but dhimmitude.

You mention that Muslims are spreading all over the world but let me add that they want to weasel sharia into all the systems of the nations they move into. How far have they gone with Sharia courts in the UK? What will they prove when they build that huge Mosque in NYC so near to Ground Zero? I wonder just how far left that group in NYC that approved the mosque really are and how much the people of the city really know about what is happening to them.
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Old 06-06-2010, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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President offered Palestinians a state, and they refused


instead, they chose to be governed by supporters of terrorist, and corruption.
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Palestinian Arabs have been offered the opportunity to create a state many times, starting with plans advanced during the British Mandate which the Arabs rejected. Then the United Nation partition plan of 1947, which brought Israel into existence, included a nation for the Palestinians, but the Arabs rejected it. Over the decades since there has been plan after plan that would bring peace to the region and a state for the Palestinians: all they had to do was let Israel live in peace. Arabs rejected all these plans, up to and including at Camp David in 2000Taba in 2001, and kept the armed struggle going. and LINK
Great post and you can tell how good it is by the way lefties oppose it all. Somehow some of them just can't understand what has been offered over and over by various people with Israel. Sure they don't want a separate state unless they can have Israel. The worst part of it all is that they are mostly from outside countries and aren't allowed any freedom in those other countries if they move back out.
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Old 06-06-2010, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Can't think of a bigger con than the Irving Kristol trotskyite crew suggesting that forced extraction of US taxpayer money as "foreign aid" to Israel, Egypt and Palestine is somehow "conservative". Best...con...ever. But, then again that's why us REAL conservatives call ya neo-CONs.
I have wondered about you for some time and now I know about you. Thanks.
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Old 06-06-2010, 11:31 PM
 
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They seem to have forgot that the video camera was invented. They looked for trouble and like always they found it like a fool that walks into a bar and asks if anyone wants to fight.The supporters of palestine get stpider everyday it seems.Just as they think that they can shoot rockets from civilian areas into israel then say look whatt israel did by firing back. They say they will settle for nothing other than the destruction of irael;then blame israel for defend themselvesagianst that. I lost faith when they turned down the camp david deals long ago. Arifat knew he was a dead man if he took any dealo really.That how the terrorist work;peace would put them out of power.The paletinians are pawns of their own leadership relly.
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Old 06-07-2010, 01:59 AM
 
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Great video and to h*ll with the supporters of Hamas who would strap bombs to their women and children.
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Old 06-07-2010, 04:38 AM
 
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Great video and to h*ll with the supporters of Hamas who would strap bombs to their women and children.
Exactly! And why did the so called Peace makers have all these iron rod to hit with...aren't they against all violence?

Any one who believes these so called peace makers with terrorist backgrounds and associations....is just biased.

You don't have to agree with either side but when either a police officer or a soldier comes to check a boat and they boaters are hitting the soldiers and throwing them off the boat, that show they are up to no good.

The Hamas leader from Holland that was also on the boat shows that this boat was up to no good whatsoever, just a way to get weapons there under the name of peace.
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Old 06-07-2010, 10:50 AM
 
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This one's definitely worth passing around on the www
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