08-07-2017, 06:04 PM
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You don't have to bicker with me so much you know....
You don't have to cherry-pick facts. It's not healthy.
Bickering? Not me. Just pointing out that while you could point us to loads to articles about downtown Portland, you chose one in particular. Presumably to make a point. There are lots of different articles that that would make different points.
No, I just prefer arguments that are good ones. Your point is good, but you don't make your case.
08-08-2017, 11:52 AM
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Just posting about very recent happenings downtown.
01-03-2018, 11:21 AM
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Another downtown downturn:
Chinatown's last dim sum restaurant has closed | OregonLive.com
Read the comments section.
On top of that, the crappy "Original Taco House" that most every longtime Portlander and native Portlander hated and loved at the same time closed too......
More east Berlin type condos for Powell Blvd and N 82nd, I guess.
01-03-2018, 02:06 PM
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Another downtown downturn:
Chinatown's last dim sum restaurant has closed | OregonLive.com
Read the comments section.
On top of that, the crappy "Original Taco House" that most every longtime Portlander and native Portlander hated and loved at the same time closed too......
More east Berlin type condos for Powell Blvd and N 82nd, I guess.
New Year's Eve we drove past the Original Taco House, and I wondered to myself how much longer it was going to remain open. I think it was next day when I heard the announcement in the news. Weird.
01-03-2018, 02:09 PM
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Another downtown downturn:
Chinatown's last dim sum restaurant has closed | OregonLive.com
Read the comments section.
On top of that, the crappy "Original Taco House" that most every longtime Portlander and native Portlander hated and loved at the same time closed too......
More east Berlin type condos for Powell Blvd and N 82nd, I guess.
Ugh who would actually go to Chinatown to eat anyways-
HK lounge has a great dim sum experience, plenty of space...
And the local taqueria 5 mins from our house is family run, traditional Oaxacan cuisine, and most importantly a great salsa/ toppings bar (love the stewed cactus and peppers) with $1.35 tacos and comfortable diner booths....
ETA- cities are living breathing things-
took relatives to downtown over the summer, walked briefly about in Chinatown- and lol- no "Chinese" walking about at all- to see Asian people- its out and about in 82nd that you see them (and the good eating has moved to)...
Dim sum is cheap comfort food, not really fine dining (it can be, of course)...
01-03-2018, 02:25 PM
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Chinatown used to be the only place you could go gamble in Oregon...my how times have changed. Original Taco House was "real" mexican food to me as a kid...
01-03-2018, 04:09 PM
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Original Taco House was "real" mexican food to me as a kid...
YEP, I think it was one of the first "real" full time mexican places in Portland when it opened up in the sixties.
I remember my parents taking us there way back then, and it seemed like a really exotic south of the border experience to a 12 year old kid from Portland Oregon, which was pretty naive and backwoods at the time.
Now it would be considered gringo-mex food.
Back then nobody even knew what "traditional Oaxacan cuisine" was, or even cared.
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01-03-2018, 04:17 PM
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Ugh who would actually go to Chinatown to eat anyways-
Well, believe it or not, before the Pearl district was gentrified, Chinatown used to be a fun, fairly clean, vibrant Asian community that Portland was really proud of.
Lots of restaruants and shops, and it was a fun place to visit.
I know you are fairly new to the area, but Chinatown didn't use to be all
UGH like you describe it now.
The Pearl was a nasty smelly district full of breweries, railyards and warehouses, and that's where a lot of the bums and homeless people hung out.
It looked like this (and a lot worse):
When the Pearl was developed, Chinatown became crime-ridden, and the Asian community finally had it and moved out to 82nd Ave.
The last straw was when the CoP was considering naming the main street through Chinatown........ Caesar Chavez Ave.
As far as HK and your taqueria, I hope when they go out of business, somebody doesn't tell you about how great the places are in their neighborhood across town, and then tell you how bad your places are/were!
(Sorry, your comments started to remind me of the Peacock Lane thread!)
There are tons of better places to eat now than there were back in the sixties when the OTH opened up. And if you wanted real Chinese food, you went to Chinatown.
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01-03-2018, 08:13 PM
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Well, believe it or not, before the Pearl district was gentrified, Chinatown used to be a fun, fairly clean, vibrant Asian community that Portland was really proud of.
Lots of restaruants and shops, and it was a fun place to visit.
I know you are fairly new to the area, but Chinatown didn't use to be all
UGH like you describe it now.
The Pearl was a nasty smelly district full of breweries, railyards and warehouses, and that's where a lot of the bums and homeless people hung out.
It looked like this (and a lot worse):
When the Pearl was developed, Chinatown became crime-ridden, and the Asian community finally had it and moved out to 82nd Ave.
The last straw was when the CoP was considering naming the main street through Chinatown........ Caesar Chavez Ave.
As far as HK and your taqueria, I hope when they go out of business, somebody doesn't tell you about how great the places are in their neighborhood across town, and then tell you how bad your places are/were!
(Sorry, your comments started to remind me of the Peacock Lane thread!)
There are tons of better places to eat now than there were back in the sixties when the OTH opened up. And if you wanted real Chinese food, you went to Chinatown.
LOL.
Ms CaJerseyChick always makes me think she believes Portland was always as it is today and was no different before she moved there. I was not a native but I do remember Chinatown and the great restaurants and shops and everything else just as you describe them. Friends and I used to go there for good food and adventure.
Good times.
01-03-2018, 08:23 PM
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Well, believe it or not, before the Pearl district was gentrified, Chinatown used to be a fun, fairly clean, vibrant Asian community that Portland was really proud of.
Lots of restaruants and shops, and it was a fun place to visit.
I know you are fairly new to the area, but Chinatown didn't use to be all
UGH like you describe it now.
The Pearl was a nasty smelly district full of breweries, railyards and warehouses, and that's where a lot of the bums and homeless people hung out.
It looked like this (and a lot worse):
When the Pearl was developed, Chinatown became crime-ridden, and the Asian community finally had it and moved out to 82nd Ave.
The last straw was when the CoP was considering naming the main street through Chinatown........ Caesar Chavez Ave.
As far as HK and your taqueria, I hope when they go out of business, somebody doesn't tell you about how great the places are in their neighborhood across town, and then tell you how bad your places are/were!
(Sorry, your comments started to remind me of the Peacock Lane thread!)
There are tons of better places to eat now than there were
back in the sixties when the OTH opened up. And if you wanted real Chinese food, you went to Chinatown.
Back in the sixties is when I was born!
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People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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