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Old 02-02-2015, 10:16 AM
 
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#1 Only 1 ball was 2.0 PSI under and that was the ball that the Colts staff had from the interception.

#2 All of the other balls that were measured at halftime that were below 12.5 were just a "few ticks under" and can easily be explained by cooling temperatures and leather becoming wet (which expands and increases volume and lowers PSI).

#3 The "ball boy" that took the balls into the bathroom for 98 seconds was elderly and had to take the balls in with him if he went to the restroom.

#4 There is evidence that the refs failed to actually measure the PSI of all of the balls BEFORE the game. None of the refs who handle the ball after every play could notice the difference in the ball pressure.

More details on the investigation of Patriots' deflated footballs - NFL.com

There is literally no proof the Patriots tampered with the football.
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Old 02-02-2015, 10:19 AM
 
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Just to make sure you are not considered biased which would deflate your argument - are you a Patriots fan?
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Old 02-02-2015, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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This horse is dead, stop kicking it!
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Old 02-02-2015, 10:24 AM
 
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Just to make sure you are not considered biased which would deflate your argument - are you a Patriots fan?
#1 I am sadly a Detroit Lions fan.

#2 Facts are facts. If Bill Belicheck posted this, how would it change the argument. Either these are solid points or they are not. What did I say that is factually wrong?
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Old 02-02-2015, 10:26 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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#1 Only 1 ball was 2.0 PSI under and that was the ball that the Colts staff had from the interception.

What a coincidence!!
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Old 02-02-2015, 10:28 AM
 
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Kraft will make Goodell pay for this. I predict he will resign in the next few months and that ex-Jets guy who is pushing the investigation will be looking for a new job as well.
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Old 02-02-2015, 10:39 AM
 
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#1 Only 1 ball was 2.0 PSI under and that was the ball that the Colts staff had from the interception.
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What a coincidence!!
Think about this....

At least 4 refs handled the ball in question before the interception and NONE of them said they could feel a difference that it was deflated. Not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 refs.

Tom Brady said he could not tell a difference in pressure with that specific ball.

The Colts player that intercepted the ball said he could not tell a difference with the pressure of the ball.

The Colts equipment manager gets his hands on it and then it is found to be 2.0 PSI below - a difference that IS noticeable when you handle it - and it is the ONLY ball to be 2.0 PSI below.
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Old 02-02-2015, 10:44 AM
 
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#1 I am sadly a Detroit Lions fan.

#2 Facts are facts. If Bill Belicheck posted this, how would it change the argument. Either these are solid points or they are not. What did I say that is factually wrong?
Sorry about Detroit

I'm a Pats fan who live 20 minutes from Gillette. If you were a Pats fan and posted this, it would be biased
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Old 02-02-2015, 09:43 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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Just to make sure you are not considered biased which would deflate your argument - are you a Patriots fan?
I'm not, and I considered this whole ordeal to be nothing but a teapot tempest in the first place.
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Old 02-02-2015, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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I don't think anyone on this forum knows anything about any of the evidence that could be considered "truth" or "facts."

Remember, some of the initial media reports (which is where you are getting your "facts") have since been proven to be inaccurate.

Let's just see what the Wells investigation reports.

Regardless, the Patriots are PROVEN cheaters. They cheated before and that is a fact. Sorry if some of us want to let it all play out before clearing them.
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