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Old 07-30-2012, 08:57 AM
 
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is the lack of emotional connection contributing to human being killing each other? they once was a time
that you actually knew your neighbor.

once but now with all these gadget we hardly talk to each other.

how can we change that?
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:48 PM
 
Location: The Triad
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...is the lack of emotional connection contributing to human being killing each other?
If you mean that in ANY sort of causal sense... then NO.
otoh... If you mean that in a broader coincidental sense then, yeah; of course.

The lack of adequate psychological and psychiatric care and facilities (there's never room
for these people beforehand but plenty afterward) even if the person is observed to be dangerous
to themselves or others is the real real culprit.
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:09 PM
 
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Humans have always killed one another, they just called it war back then.

I don't think much has changed really. Sure we have a me me me culture and people are busier and caught up in their own crapola, but normal people don't go around murdering other people. Psychotic, sociopathic, mentally ill, drug charged, drunk and angry people do that. As MrRational stated, the lack of decent mental health resources can squarely be held to blame for much of this.
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:45 PM
 
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The problem with psychological and psychiatric care centers is the people running them. The insane run the asylums and they belong as patients in their own facilities. When America wonders where it went wrong, they trusted a very sick helping profession. I don't think the helping profession should have any regrets. It's fear they should fear most, the fear of god. Jesus said to love all creatures great and small. Zeus always knew that one day his daughter Athena would have far more power than he. Women have no answer for Diana.

This world is living on borrowed time, father time is not on their side.

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If you mean that in ANY sort of causal sense... then NO.
otoh... If you mean that in a broader coincidental sense then, yeah; of course.

The lack of adequate psychological and psychiatric care and facilities (there's never room
for these people beforehand but plenty afterward) even if the person is observed to be dangerous
to themselves or others is the real real culprit.
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:33 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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The problem with psychological and psychiatric care centers is the people running them. The insane run the asylums and they belong as patients in their own facilities.
uh huh...

Not that I don't get your fundamental point but the problem still remains of somehow having an
option for "those people" short of imprisonment for the rest of their natural lives and only
implemented AFTER they have done something that in hind sight is always shown to have had warnings.

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"Years later, after he was certified as 'sane,' he read 'objective' medical descriptions of what he had experienced, and he was shocked at how slanderous they were. They were like descriptions of a religious sect written by a different, hostile religious sect. The psychiatric treatment was not a search for truth but the promulgation of a dogma. Psychiatrists seemed to fear the taint of insanity much as inquisitors once feared succumbing to the devil. Psychiatrists were not allowed to practice psychiatry if they were insane. It was required that they literally did not know what they were talking about.

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Old 07-31-2012, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Doral, FL
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No fathers, no discipline, feminism, & decades of liberal policies = broken family unit + messed up society we have today. It has nothing to do with technology. You break down the family unit, you break down the country. Simple.
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:59 AM
 
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No fathers, no discipline, feminism, & decades of liberal policies = broken family unit + messed up society we have today. It has nothing to do with technology. You break down the family unit, you break down the country. Simple.
And how do you explain the Holocaust, Pol Pot's regime, Joseph Stalin's Great Purge, The Nanjiing Massacre and thousands of other mass murders of civilians throughout history, long before feminism, no fathers and liberal politics?

This isn't merely a modern day phenomenon. It is rooted in the human psyche.
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Old 07-31-2012, 04:28 PM
 
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is the lack of emotional connection contributing to human being killing each other? they once was a time
that you actually knew your neighbor.

once but now with all these gadget we hardly talk to each other.

how can we change that?

their are all sorts of reasons why people kill each other

political , nation states think nothing of killing endless numbers of people ( who never done them any harm ) in order to cement or emphasise thier power and priveledge

some people kill for personal reasons , someone may have grieviously wronged them

some people are just psychopaths who randomly kill cause they like it
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Old 07-31-2012, 04:29 PM
 
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Humans have always killed one another, they just called it war back then.

I don't think much has changed really. Sure we have a me me me culture and people are busier and caught up in their own crapola, but normal people don't go around murdering other people. Psychotic, sociopathic, mentally ill, drug charged, drunk and angry people do that. As MrRational stated, the lack of decent mental health resources can squarely be held to blame for much of this.
most normal people would soon become well capable of killing if they found themselves in the right circumstances

most are lucky enough to never arrive at such a possition
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Old 07-31-2012, 04:31 PM
 
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No fathers, no discipline, feminism, & decades of liberal policies = broken family unit + messed up society we have today. It has nothing to do with technology. You break down the family unit, you break down the country. Simple.

what are you talking about , most millitarys are populated by conservatives , not that ive anything against conservatives or the millitary but armies kill , its one of their key functions
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