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You have yet to identify what the "hyper fanatical gun nut" is...I don't have the slightest idea what that is supposed to be other than feeding into peoples steriotypes. Otherwise people on the opposite side of the extreme will willingly and freely label you a narcissitic gun nut as well, for simply owning a gun. And, from some posts in the political forum I have seen, it's clear that any gun owner is labeled a "gun nut".
Certainly their are gun collectors, or gun enthusiasts - do you condemn them for their hobby of choice? Yes, for some it's no different then collecting coins or collecting Harry Potter memorabilia. It's also a very expensive hobby and I can assure you that they aren't able to afford the hobby buy being a "nut", but by being a contributing, responsible, and hard working member of society - one with various interests and skills.
So you really created a post that appeals to the "anti-gun nut" - those that will label and condemn all those who own a gun, didn't you? Pretty irrresponsible.
You have yet to identify what the "hyper fanatical gun nut" is...
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An extreme fan or follower of a particular medium or concept, whether it be sports, television, film directors, video games (the most common usage), etc.
Known for a complete lack of objectivity in relation to their preferred focus. Usually argue with circular logic that they refuse to acknowledge. Arguments or debates with such are usually futile. Every flaw is spun into semi-virtues and everything else, blown to comedic, complimentary proportions.
Gun nut is a person with self esteem so low, that it has to grasp to something, to have at least some of it left to function. Gun gives such a person a phony sensation of security and stability and some power. Now, like anything on Earth, there is no limit to human desires. Satiety comes fast, and one start looking for enhanced stimulus, and here comes another gun, or a bigger gun, and so the mad circle starts.
I don't think most gun owners themselves are nuts since they might only have a few hunting rifles for example, but the people who buy AK-47's, Uzi's, TEC-9's, and other high powered weapons for some "doomsday" scenario certainly fit that profile.
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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You have yet to identify what the "hyper fanatical gun nut" is...I don't have the slightest idea what that is supposed to be other than feeding into peoples steriotypes. Otherwise people on the opposite side of the extreme will willingly and freely label you a narcissitic gun nut as well, for simply owning a gun. And, from some posts in the political forum I have seen, it's clear that any gun owner is labeled a "gun nut".
Certainly their are gun collectors, or gun enthusiasts - do you condemn them for their hobby of choice? Yes, for some it's no different then collecting coins or collecting Harry Potter memorabilia. It's also a very expensive hobby and I can assure you that they aren't able to afford the hobby buy being a "nut", but by being a contributing, responsible, and hard working member of society - one with various interests and skills.
So you really created a post that appeals to the "anti-gun nut" - those that will label and condemn all those who own a gun, didn't you? Pretty irrresponsible.
Well, let's just say that gun owner or no, someone whose response to the slaughter of 26 human beings, is to post a pro-gun video of one of the parents, has a very ''interesting'' outlook and set of priorities...
My best buddy, very good friend for twenty years, and I, completely stopped speaking since Sandy Hook.
I do not think he is a nut in any way. He is a good dad. He owns one handgun, is trained, and keeps it safely.
But somehow, in our conversation about Newtown, something changed very fast.
When I said, and wrote, that I believe in enhanced background checks and limits on high-capacity magazines and semi-automatic weapons, he seems to have heard "I am driving over to your house right now to take your gun away from you."
No matter how many different ways I explained that I would fight for his right to retain his gun, and any other gun he so chose to own legally, he still, went off the rails, saying things like "I'm the guy you want sitting next to you when it hits the fan..." and stuff like that.
He could not process my meager point. He became delusional, in my opinion, that his gun also came with a cape.
I do not know why some (some!) gun owners mis-perceive that people are "coming for their guns" when in actuality I just would like more safety measures in the purchase process and less opportunity for 50 rounds to be discharged when the wrong person obtains a high-capacity gun.
My best buddy, very good friend for twenty years, and I, completely stopped speaking since Sandy Hook.
I do not think he is a nut in any way. He is a good dad. He owns one handgun, is trained, and keeps it safely.
But somehow, in our conversation about Newtown, something changed very fast.
When I said, and wrote, that I believe in enhanced background checks and limits on high-capacity magazines and semi-automatic weapons, he seems to have heard "I am driving over to your house right now to take your gun away from you."
No matter how many different ways I explained that I would fight for his right to retain his gun, and any other gun he so chose to own legally, he still, went off the rails, saying things like "I'm the guy you want sitting next to you when it hits the fan..." and stuff like that.
He could not process my meager point. He became delusional, in my opinion, that his gun also came with a cape.
I do not know why some (some!) gun owners mis-perceive that people are "coming for their guns" when in actuality I just would like more safety measures in the purchase process and less opportunity for 50 rounds to be discharged when the wrong person obtains a high-capacity gun.
Columbine happened with 10 round magazines...
You are willing to give up freedoms for the illusion of safety. And, well, Franklin already addressed that.
If you've been friends for 20 years, and you don't think he is not a nut... Perhaps you should sit down and talk to him with an open mind.
Location: Formerly Pleasanton Ca, now in Marietta Ga
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My best buddy, very good friend for twenty years, and I, completely stopped speaking since Sandy Hook.
I do not think he is a nut in any way. He is a good dad. He owns one handgun, is trained, and keeps it safely.
But somehow, in our conversation about Newtown, something changed very fast.
When I said, and wrote, that I believe in enhanced background checks and limits on high-capacity magazines and semi-automatic weapons, he seems to have heard "I am driving over to your house right now to take your gun away from you."
No matter how many different ways I explained that I would fight for his right to retain his gun, and any other gun he so chose to own legally, he still, went off the rails, saying things like "I'm the guy you want sitting next to you when it hits the fan..." and stuff like that.
He could not process my meager point. He became delusional, in my opinion, that his gun also came with a cape.
I do not know why some (some!) gun owners mis-perceive that people are "coming for their guns" when in actuality I just would like more safety measures in the purchase process and less opportunity for 50 rounds to be discharged when the wrong person obtains a high-capacity gun.
You have to realize there are more people against guns than for guns. Many of them call gun owners nuts or crazy. Many say gun owners are paranoid and make statements such as "they are not coming to take your guns" The fact is many of them are just spouting out what they have heard, but don't really even know what the are talking about. They haven't read the measures proposed at all or else they would realize that some of the things they say to gun owners isn't even true.
After a gun owner hears this stuff over and over and often they are insulted just as as much as many say they get overly defensive to others.
here's a city that is trying to pass a law to take firearms from people during a crisis ( that's the time you want a firearm for protection)
Most anti gun people say they will not take guns, but they don't even know that it has happened before, so how can they make that statement. I have posted these videos before
If you ask them to comment on this, they won't but continue to post elsewhere the same thoughts that no guns will be taken.
So after a while one tends to get short with them.
On another point, I guess add guns to topics never to discuss like money and politics.
Last edited by aslowdodge; 02-27-2013 at 12:27 AM..
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