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men are the simpler and easy gender,,,we like sex and food,,, beyond that if we get steady sex,,,we live not to anger the steady sex partner..(if she is angry she with-holds sex)
women are the complicated sex,,,,like an emotional rubik's cube ... men will never solve
there's a reason men usually die first
This is profoundly incorrect. Men are not less complex than women, and you can't view either as one big group. There are simple people and complicated people. You cannot tell me that male physicists, neurosurgeons, astronauts, heck some of these serial killers even, are so simple that they care only about food and sex. Also, a man might have a steady giver of sex willing to completely accomodate him in any way, and cast her aside because she was too easy, or because he wants a new conquest, or for whatever reason. SOME men are simple. Some aren't. Some women are motivated by very simple things. Some aren't.
And I tend to think that the statistical reality of men usually dying first likely has more to do with less attention to their health (on average) than your typical woman. A woman who has her lady parts checked once a year as we are supposed to, for cancer, is also having a chance to talk to a doctor who might recommend treatment for some ache or symptom, and we are also under a lot of pressure to look good and youthful, which requires us to end to our bodies and our health. Men are considered more virile by virtue of flinging themselves at high velocity headlong in or out of machines, or beating on one another, or how much they can drink, etc. Hardly healthy pursuits.
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Originally Posted by Larry Caldwell
It's hard to have sex with a woman when you can't stand to be in the same room with her.
This is an important observation regarding lack of sex in marriage. I think that too often, partners (one or the other or both) take one another for granted after a while, become selfish, easily upset by slights that build up, feel resentful and neglected or nagged or unappreciated. But you don't want to fight about it, so you carry those grievances inside, or you do fight about it in which case you're probably doing a lot of hurtful and unproductive noisemaking. Thing is, marriage is really hard on a relationship. It's the having to deal with living together and sharing all of the hardships, stresses, and responsibilities of life. Being together not just because you want to and choose to, but because you HAVE to, it is your home...day after day and year after year. It's a wonder anyone can stand anyone else after years of that. And then sex, when it does happen, is just the discharging of a marital obligation, not a joyful romp.
To the married couples here who defy that description...congratulations. You are awesome. May you continue to enjoy one another for many years to come.
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Originally Posted by misterno
The men are obsessed with sex because it is in their DNA
They have ample amount of sperm to spread around
The right question to ask is why did the creator create men in this manner?
The answer is simple
Whoever created us wanted us to multiply on earth.
millions of years ago, there was no law, no police no rules for sex. Any man can rape any woman they can find. Who can stop them? nobody
Creator(s) knew it and they wanted all these men to seed the women they can find.
Why did they want such a crazy thing?
Because they needed free labour to work in the gold mines or to serve them directly.
Now that gods (gods with small g) left earth and who knows where they are, we are stuck with this no longer needed ample sperm which is still being produced all the time. So we the men live in an environment where we have the instinct to have sex all the time but never show the desire because it is not correct or against the law.
Some men evolved and became half men or quite man. Some men like me have the tarzan in them, but act like a girly man at work. Because we have no other choice.
I feel like a domesticated dog sometimes. I wish I can go back millions of years ago and act like a real man exactly what I am created for.
PS: gods with small g and God with big g 2 different entities.
Would tinfoil condoms keep the 'gods' from messing with your DNA, do you think?
It appears that still, the point of this discussion or addressing the article I referenced, is not being looked at or considered. There is a lot involved as to why males end up obsessed with "stimulation and release", not just due to Testosterone which is a physical reason, but having confused emotional motivations for what they do. It appears to be all that matters, as seen within the "dating and relationships" threads.
I have never read anything here where men discuss what they want out of a relationship.. except sex, that "she is hot".. ..(and that is not a relationship). Do men ever discuss what characteristics they like in another and would want in a partner for an actual involvement? It's all so empty and lifeless.. no wonder a lot of people are unhappy and has appeared to have worsened. If men generally do not relate to anything of any depth or involving emotions, then it makes sense that things do not work out.
It appears that still, the point of this discussion or addressing the article I referenced, is not being looked at or considered. There is a lot involved as to why males end up obsessed with "stimulation and release", not just due to Testosterone which is a physical reason, but having confused emotional motivations for what they do. It appears to be all that matters, as seen within the "dating and relationships" threads.
I have never read anything here where men discuss what they want out of a relationship.. except sex, that "she is hot".. ..(and that is not a relationship). Do men ever discuss what characteristics they like in another and would want in a partner for an actual involvement? It's all so empty and lifeless.. no wonder a lot of people are unhappy and has appeared to have worsened. If men generally do not relate to anything of any depth or involving emotions, then it makes sense that things do not work out.
I'm not sure what threads you're reading. I see many men complain that they want meaningful relationships with a specific sort of woman they have in mind. Some even lament that they cannot find the sort of self disciplined and self sacrificing virtues they seek in American women at all, and seriously consider looking abroad. Fact is, call it feminism or whatever, when women have to share in efforts that were traditionally covered by men, we feel less dependent upon men, more inclined to seek enjoyment without commitment, and certainly less likely to put a man's needs ahead of our own in life. I think the social playing field was shaken, and everyone is still trying to figure out how to live with it. Even men who easily find sexual partners, complain about the emptiness of it eventually.
Men are "obsessed" with sex because of biological reasons.
and who created that biology in the first place?
What was the purpose of this kind of biology?
I think you know what I mean.
Here is the simple truth.
The only way to force people to have kids is to give them some kind of instinct some driving force to have sex.
There was no other way people would have kids. How would ancient man know getting pregnant was a result of sex?
So in order to force mankind to multiply with no effort by the masters, sex is introduced. They just went too far in this DNA manipulation and in the history before law, courts , police was introduced, men were always raping women here and there. Theh were just after having fun but they did not and still not realizing that they were serving an ancient purpose.
I am pretty sure 99% of people reading this, think I am crazy.
I am just trying to make a point regarding emotional aspects, that unknowingly seem to affect a male's approach in connecting with a female. Where females want to connect on an emotional level, males can appear to be devoid of connecting on a mental or emotional level. Boys and Girls are influenced differently from childhood.. then seems that there are such difficulties in their approach to being with the opposite sex, not that they do not both posess physical attraction and desire, but the emotional relating is lacking.
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Adolescent boys are exposed to a social imperative to get laid in order to prove their maleness, long before they even know what “getting laid” means. They are bombarded with sexual images through television, advertising, and pornography. These images are very compelling, somehow conveying to them that the great mystery of life can be experienced through sex.
Directly and indirectly, we are handed sexuality as the one vehicle through which it might still be possible to express and experience essential aspects of our humanness that have been slowly and systematically conditioned out of us. All of these human needs are then promised to us by way of sex and sexuality. This is an effective lure because sexuality genuinely can be a potent source of love and pleasure, intimacy, sensuality, and beauty. But in no way can sex completely fulfill these needs.
The reason you are not getting the answers you want is because most of us here recognize that link for the nonsense it is. You keep belaboring it as though 14 pages later you expect everyone to suddenly come around to your way of thinking and start going 20,000 leagues deep into touchy-feely pop-psych and it's just not going to happen. This whole "men are obsessed with sex and it's such a horrible tragedy because they are so neglected as boys" is such a joke that Bill Maher did a skit on it, linking male horniness to mass shootings.
Start at the 2:00 mark.
The bottom line is that sex drives are biological. That's it.
Isn't part of the reason related to our extended life expectancy? Male "obsession" with sex reaches its peak at adolescence, and tapers off into the 30s-- around the time when the average or impoverished male (and people in general) died of injury and illness.
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Then he should end the relationship instead of destroying the person he's in a relationship with.
Bad idea. They should try to salvage the relationship. Assuming they're just folding their arms at each other, and abuse or cheating hasn't taken place. The power and benefits of couples/marriage/families aren't valued anymore, for some dumb reason.
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..(and that is not a relationship). Do men ever discuss what characteristics they like in another and would want in a partner for an actual involvement? It's all so empty and lifeless.. no wonder a lot of people are unhappy and has appeared to have worsened. If men generally do not relate to anything of any depth or involving emotions, then it makes sense that things do not work out.
