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It's a cycle. This usually involves people who are socially awkward and unsuccessful at dating or making friends. Bitterness sets in and they begin to hate the people who are rejecting them, even though they still want romantic interests or friends in their life.
I think this issue will always be with us, unfortunately.
Yes, this was a big issue when I was online dating. I would read profiles and it was so clear the guy was bitter, I'd read it and rather than describing himself and what he's looking for, it's a long diatribe about everything he hates about women and what he refuses to do in a relationship and what he won't tolerate in a woman....I'd think "Boy this guy really hates women". Why on earth would I want to date that guy?
I think many of them believe women NEVER get burned in relationships, and that they are perpetual victims.
My fiance got burned beyond belief (lifetime alimony) but while he hates her, he doesn't punish all women for her. He treated me like gold from the very beginning.
The major difference is that women who hate men do not want to date them. Men who hate women still want to date them, because men feel entitled to attention from women regardless of whether they like women or not.
Hmmm...interesting point. I think, though, we have to be careful about the labeling. Not every man who wants a traditional wife is a misogynist. He may hate independent women and he might be labeled a misogynist, but he doesn't hate all women, whereas a misogynist actually does, and not just the independent ones.
Er, no, only being OK with a woman who is essentially a house slave is a misogynist point of view no matter what way you look at it.
Er, no, only being OK with a woman who is essentially a house slave is a misogynist point of view no matter what way you look at it.
Ugh, no. There's a difference between a guy saying that all women are only good for is being a house slave, and a guy preferring a more traditional woman (staying at home, taking care of kids and house, etc.).
One is being misogynistic, the other is simply a preference for a relationship.
Ugh, no. There's a difference between a guy saying that all women are only good for is being a house slave, and a guy preferring a more traditional woman (staying at home, taking care of kids and house, etc.).
One is being misogynistic, the other is simply a preference for a relationship.
Right, and the most important thing is that the more traditional roles are mutual decision made with respect, not a power trip based on contempt.
Something you see here a lot on CD and in life: the man who does not like or respect women but desperately wants one in his life and wonders why self-respecting women don't want to be with him.
How and why does this happen? How can these guys realize that their own worldview is the reason they are alone. It could be a chicken or the egg thing; a bad experience soured them on women in general...but that seems rare.
And yes, this same thing goes both ways. We all know women who don't like or respect men but want a man in their life.
Thoughts?
A lot of these kinds of guys started out being nice and respectful to girls, only to be mocked and sneered at and made to feel like chumps.
THAT is where most of the derision and hostility comes from.
Er, no, only being OK with a woman who is essentially a house slave is a misogynist point of view no matter what way you look at it.
Naw. Some see the advantage of one person working and one person taking care of all the day to day stuff.
My husband preferred I stay home. For a bunch of reasons, some of them medical problems I have, others just it works easier.
We went that direction and it works great for us. BUT, if I decided to go back to work he would totally support that too.
And no, I was no house slave. My husband respects my capabilities, so a lot of the decisions are mine, including financial (he is the only one with income), but I am very good at managing finances, planning and making sure investments are made and such.
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Right, and the most important thing is that the more traditional roles are mutual decision made with respect, not a power trip based on contempt.
Well said, but I can't Rep you.
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If a misogynist wants a family it can be a real problem these days. So they get really bitter because they would have to change their attitude in order to have a stable marriage and family. They want to do it the old way where they can have a wife and kids and also cheat with their secretary and the wife can't leave.
A lot of these kinds of guys started out being nice and respectful to girls, only to be mocked and sneered at and made to feel like chumps.
THAT is where most of the derision and hostility comes from.
But what one could ask is what kind of women are these men associating with who are mocking and sneering and making them feel like chumps? And why would they feel hostility toward these women rather than pity and relief? What awful people. He dodged a bullet.
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