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Old 09-02-2018, 06:37 PM
 
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1. I think the touching was accidental because of the height difference. I don't believe there was any intention of "groping."
2. I find his comments problematic and inappropriate for the occasion.

See the height difference:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxc_P0vohSY

 
Old 09-02-2018, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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1. I think the touching was accidental because of the height difference. I don't believe there was any intention of "groping."
2. I find his comments problematic and inappropriate for the occasion.
At that height difference, he could have easily put his arm around her shoulder. I do believe there was some intent here to pull her in, if not mere force of habit.

Of course none of us can speculate about what he was thinking. But the psychological aspect of this situation that intrigues me is the way he pretty much dismissed it like, "Oh, did I? Well, I hugged every performer... blah blah blah..."

Either he is clueless about his lack of boundaries, which in and of itself is disturbing, or he is being deceptive, in which case his cover is blown and it's past time for him to reevaluate his behaviors.

Another famous example of using one's position to obliterate personal boundaries:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.0c5b1f26fe53
 
Old 09-02-2018, 07:18 PM
 
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My feeling is that if this guy is this comfortable and confident being grabby with cameras on him, he's been doing this for quite some time now, to God knows how many cute sheep in his congregation, without repercussions. although the cameras, who knows how much more grabby.
 
Old 09-02-2018, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Do you think he knew what he was doing, or was just an unfortunate missundestanding? What about the comment about she sounding like a Mexican dish? Any psychological lessons with coud learn from this incident?
Ofcourse the man knew what he was doing. If Ariana grande was fat and ugly do you think he would have his arm groped around her chest? No.

The psychological lessons are narcissism, pervert, and sex offender from a position of power.

This was a grown ass married man who groped Ariana Grande and refused to move his hand while offending her name with a taco bell menu.

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Old 09-02-2018, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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1. I think the touching was accidental because of the height difference. I don't believe there was any intention of "groping."
2. I find his comments problematic and inappropriate for the occasion.

See the height difference:
He SAYS he didn't even know who Ariana Grande was (racist taco bell menu joke), BUT he's grabbing her like it's his girlfriend

Jesus, did you even watch the video?

It was not accidental. I'm a guy, this is what guys do so they can subtlely touch, grab, and control women. Do you want this pastor dragging and grabbing your spouse, daughter, or significant other by her right breast?

This is not debatable, if Ariana Grande was not on TV she would slap the hell out of him for digging his fingers into her chest like that.
 
Old 09-02-2018, 07:51 PM
 
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Ofcourse the man knew what he was doing. If Ariana grande was fat and ugly do you think he would have his arm groped around her chest? No.

The psychological lessons are narcissism, pervert, and sex offender from a position of power.

This was a grown ass married man who groped Ariana Grande and refused to move his had while offending her name with a taco bell menu.
Er, "fat and ugly?" The implication being that FAT women are ugly? Just askin'. .
 
Old 09-02-2018, 07:53 PM
 
Location: South Florida
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I saw a still shot of it and then the video. In the beginning I wasn't sure if he was aware of where his fingers were, but she looked uncomfortable and then when they were laughing, the way she repositioned herself (a common defensive maneuver in such a situation) and then he reaches back around again even further...it was deliberate, disgusting aggressive move on his part. He copped a feel on national television. This is obviously a man used to asserting himself over people via verbal and physical intimidation.

I wish Ariana would pull a Taylor Swift on him!
 
Old 09-02-2018, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Dirty old man.
 
Old 09-02-2018, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Er, "fat and ugly?" The implication being that FAT women are ugly? Just askin'. .
Who said fat women were ugly? It's best to read a post without jumping to conclusions.
 
Old 09-02-2018, 08:16 PM
 
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But ignoring the fact that showing up to a funeral dressed like if you went to a cocktail party would be creating an elephant in the room. Young women are supposed to show their bodies the 365 days of the year? Is not a funeral a situation when everybody must follow the protocols?
Wow. I see that the blame-the-victim-mentality is still alive and well.
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